Z's on BAT and other places collection

[gundee]

I am sure most have noticed BaT uses the same template for every S30 Z car.

Just changes some things up for the current car and leaves the rest as before.

He better let me review the write up for my car before it gets published. When I list it.

Don't want any boiler plate Ad.

Edited September 6, 2023 by gundee

[grannyknot]

8 hours ago, gundee said:

I am sure most have noticed BaT uses the same template for every S30 Z car.

Just changes some things up for the current car and leaves the rest as before.

He better let me review the write up for my car before it gets published. When I list it.

Don't want any boiler plate Ad.

I've sold a couple of cars on BaT and you do get to review the ad and make changes/additions.

[Zed Head]

Is a plain old 1972 240Z with a G Nose (of questionable origin), a nice paint job, and an odd "sun roof" worth $40,000?  I thought the guy did really well.  The 72 alone was probably worth $25,000.  That's a $15,000 premium for the three additions.  Hard to figure where the additional value comes from beyond that.  It's a nice-looking shell on an old 72 with a 5 speed, right?  I wonder what his reserve was.  The Z collector world is a strange place.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-datsun-240z-287/

[Gav240z]

On 9/3/2023 at 7:02 AM, grannyknot said:

That prediction of automatic trans cars starting to go up in price looks like it may be coming true.

What I think many North American's fail to appreciate is that the supply of good LHD cars won't last forever. Therefore automatics, less desirable colours etc.. will all rise in value eventually. We in Australia got a fraction of the cars supplied to North American shores, so in effect we are 20 years ahead of you in terms of the limited supply and pricing of parts/cars/shells etc.. the UK was probably 15 years ahead of us, thanks to their wet weather depleting the cars faster but also their limited supply in the first place.

To swap an automatic car to manual is so incredibly simple in these cars it always makes me laugh when a clean rust free (as rust free as these cars can be) comes up for sale and people say to me, oh yeah, but it's an auto.. 🙂 It's far less work to convert to manual than fix a rusty manual car.

[Gav240z]

On 8/31/2023 at 2:16 AM, HS30-H said:

What a munter it is. The overfenders appear to have been fitted in the dark and George Foreman probably doesn't want that dinky little grill(e) back now. Had a chuckle at the tall claim that the 'G' nose on the car was sourced from a Japanese police car, although plenty of people will probably swallow that one whole.    

 Indeed. There seems to be a lot of Pinocchio's selling these cars on auction sites.

[xs10shl]

4 hours ago, Gav240z said:

What I think many North American's fail to appreciate is that the supply of good LHD cars won't last forever.

I'm quietly laughing and sobbing to myself a little bit as I contemplate the reality that the supply of Americans who need to or bother to get their license will dwindle with each passing generation.  But even before that, Americans who can drive a manual are becoming an endangered species.

[bartsscooterservice]

On 8/20/2023 at 4:21 AM, Terrapin Z said:

Here are some more pic's $60k for S83

 

something is of on that first yellow one that went for 60k. sits odd on the springs, as a mechanic point of view that looks like a slapped and glued together car for big bucks , wonder how it drives lol

[DC871F]

4 minutes ago, bartsscooterservice said:

something is of on that first yellow one that went for 60k. sits odd on the springs, as a mechanic point of view that looks like a slapped and glued together car for big bucks , wonder how it drives lol

I bought a 240 that had Eibach progressive springs on it, one of the worst driving Z's I've ever been in. Looked similar to this car on how it sat.

Immediately put it in the air and replaced with stock springs.

[Zed Head]

The comments continue on that red G Nose 72 even though the auction ended yesterday.  Apparently it's meant to be a show car, as The Guild guy inferred earlier.  I copied the image before it gets removed as "non-constructive".  

Kind of feel bad for picking on the guy's car but he doesn't want to let things fade.  He's asking over $40,000 for it, so he can't expect no questions asked.  What does $40,000 get you?  What he should do at this point is put that paper trail together, documentation of it's provenance to remove the mystery, and put it back on the market in the right way.  $40,000 is a risk unless you have money to burn.  Drama!  

[gundee]

3 hours ago, bartsscooterservice said:

something is of on that first yellow one that went for 60k. sits odd on the springs, as a mechanic point of view that looks like a slapped and glued together car for big bucks , wonder how it drives lol

I thought they put new stock springs on those Nissan restore program cars. 

[HS30-H]

3 hours ago, Zed Head said:

The comments continue on that red G Nose 72 even though the auction ended yesterday.

Indeed, and I seem to have hit a nerve with the (non) seller because he's picking me out for some specially-dedicated comments.

As mentioned before, if you are going to put a car up for auction in a format which allows comments from both bidder and non-bidders then you MUST expect to occasionally get rivet-counting and nit-picking posts along with the - mostly rather inane - positives. Picking the seller up on things that are clearly mis-described ('brake ducts' that are not brake ducts, 'metal' that is actually FRP/composite etc) can actually help the seller - as schroeder pointed out to him. I think we saw a seller who - when it comes down to it - doesn't know as much about the car he's selling as he thinks he does.

He countered my (now deleted) post about Japanese Fairlady 240ZG police cars with a link to an IMCD page featuring a movie prop car (which was not actually a genuine 240ZG model or indeed a genuine, even ex, Police car). I think the whole G-Nose 'from a Japanese Police car' story is more probably a tenth-hand misunderstanding of 'this G-Nose is just like they used on some Japanese Police cars', or similar.  

[xs10shl]

7 hours ago, HS30-H said:

 I think the whole G-Nose 'from a Japanese Police car' story is more probably a tenth-hand misunderstanding of 'this G-Nose is just like they used on some Japanese Police cars', or similar.  

Just a thought exercise for anyone who cares to comment:

Would "authentic Nissan parts off a period police car" carry a price premium over "authentic Nissan parts off a scrapped 240ZG", or even "authentic Nissan parts of unknown origin"? The way I personally figure it is: the car they were originally bolted on is presumably long-gone, so in my mind they are the same spare part, and therefore worth the same to me, with condition being the primary price differentiator. Other thoughts?

But if I daydream a bit . . . If someone had for sale an example of a COMPLETE documented period Japanese 240Z police car with a G-nose - even if it was something that some rural police department had cobbled together in the mid-70's without the Sargent's knowing about it - IMHO yes, absolutely that would be worth paying a price premium for!