2 hours ago, bartsscooterservice said:

S30 series is S30, even with all the different versions of it. A factory designation for a chassis series. Then came the S130.

You are making a way to big thing of this

 

Hmmm. Yes, S30-series is S30-series, but maybe you are forgetting (or didn't understand?) the point made previously; that 'S30' is both the series designator AND the chassis prefix for the 'base' models - S30-D 'Nissan Fairlady Z-L' and S30-S 'Fairlady Z'?

And this whole line of conversation sprang from people trying to make sense of the 'Series 1', 'Series 1.5', 'Series 2' et al vernacular terms and the continuing confusion between 'Model Year' and manufacturing date. Yet that is all - largely - a local, North American phenomenon. The point being made was that 'Series 1' etc is probably not a judicious choice of retrospective denomination when the factory had already used it...

Nobody, nobody!, even the "woke police" (pfft...) is telling you that you can't call your 'Datsun 240Z' a 'Datsun 240Z', or your 'Datsun 260Z' a 'Datsun 260Z'.  

 

Meanwhile people will - I guarantee! - continue to use the term '240Z' to describe a whole family of S30-series variants being conceived in 1967, designed and engineered through 1968, then produced and finally put on sale in 1969.

A tap on the shoulder from the Z Police would then be in order...

 

 

1 hour ago, Racer X said:

Um, the 240Z was made for 4 years, not 3.

1970

1971

1972

1973

 

And 1969.

1 hour ago, Racer X said:

Um, the 240Z was made for 4 years, not 3.

1970

1971

1972

1973

 

 

21 minutes ago, HS30-H said:

And 1969.

I changed it to 4.5. For the 240 police, fix it tickets I received. I will stay in 240z detention for the rest of the weekend. 🙄

Sorry Terrapin Z,  no harm meant

10 hours ago, Terrapin Z said:

and the 260 had a 260Z badge for 1 year,

In the states? Yes but in europe it was for sale in late 1974 untill in 1979 the 280zx came.. we never had a 280z..  (Ofcourse you guys now going to say the 280zx came in 1978 but it was here more 1979.. haha)

1 hour ago, dutchzcarguy said:

In the states? Yes but in europe it was for sale in late 1974 untill in 1979 the 280zx came.. we never had a 280z..  (Ofcourse you guys now going to say the 280zx came in 1978 but it was here more 1979.. haha)

Haha this is funny, cause it's confusing my dad all the time. In his memory he makes the 280ZX the 280Z. Then I tell him there never was a 280Z here haha.  Alot of people confuse the 280Z and ZX cause the name 280.. I think

3 hours ago, HS30-H said:

And this whole line of conversation sprang from people trying to make sense of the 'Series 1', 'Series 1.5', 'Series 2' et al vernacular terms and the continuing confusion between 'Model Year' and manufacturing date. Yet that is all - largely - a local, North American phenomenon. The point being made was that 'Series 1' etc is probably not a judicious choice of retrospective denomination when the factory had already used it...

 

 

 

 

Yes...

20 hours ago, Zed Head said:

This modified 71 is probably going to outdo the "early 71 Series I" 240Z.  It has fender flares!  Eeeewww....

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1971-datsun-240z-231/

This one is already up to $15,000.  Funny though, the guy has been driving it with no air filters.  Had the carbs rebuilt, just never put the filters back on. 

21 hours ago, Zed Head said:

$12,300, RNM.  Presentation is key on BAT.  The seller did a not-so-good job.  

The car had a huge bash in the left front fender!  What was the seller thinking?!?!!!  He should have taken the money and run.

7 hours ago, HS30-H said:

And 1969.

We're they ever called a 1969 240z?

 

$21,750 for a sketchy 71 240Z, modified, no ID plates visible.  There is no predicting the market value of a 240Z.

On 9/16/2022 at 2:23 PM, DC871F said:

We're they ever called a 1969 240z?

 

In North America, they were introduced for the 1970 model year even though the official introduction was in 1969 with the idea that orders were taken for a January 1970 delivery.  But since you asked, and we are kicking around the differences between "model years", a 1969 build car has several differences from what is considered a "series one" HLS30 by the masses on BaT.  I don't know how they would reconcile the discovery of the differences in the real early production cars.

 

So I have to change my answer.  See Car's post below.

Edited September 18, 20222 yr by 26th-Z
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