Z's on BAT and other places collection

[siteunseen]

Build a tree house up in there and you'll have a vacation rental, Airbnb maybe? "SLEEP IN THE TREES WITH Zs" 

 

 

Edited October 10, 2022 by siteunseen

[kats]

On 10/10/2022 at 6:38 AM, Carl Beck said:

I agree, also think that it hurts the seller's creditability when they don't state right up front - "replacement L24".  ON the other hand a low VIN 240Z with a lot of expensive and time consuming restoration work already done, most certainly would be a pretty nice weekend driver for C&C's.  At $50K-$65K it should be in the market range.   $35K for a pretty nice non-numbers matching Series I seems a bargain  + $15K for a pretty low VIN 1969 production example.  MRM may very well know what he's doing ....

Hi Carl, I want to know how much it will be on the market if some one puts a S20 in this “something short  “ 69 240Z .

Now a S20 is 42000 USD for American people. 

Kats
 

 

[HS30-H]

On 10/9/2022 at 10:38 PM, Carl Beck said:

I agree, also think that it hurts the seller's creditability when they don't state right up front - "replacement L24".  ON the other hand a low VIN 240Z with a lot of expensive and time consuming restoration work already done, most certainly would be a pretty nice weekend driver for C&C's.  At $50K-$65K it should be in the market range.   $35K for a pretty nice non-numbers matching Series I seems a bargain  + $15K for a pretty low VIN 1969 production example.  MRM may very well know what he's doing ....

Judging by the 432 that he bought, not necessarily...

[dutchzcarguy]

12 hours ago, 26th-Z said:

Nissan part number D2345-E4100

I wonder how many of us are looking up that number to see if it excists and what it really is? 😂

What?

No!!

 

NOOHH!

I'm not gonna do that!

NOOWW!! 

[Racer X]

On 10/10/2022 at 9:45 AM, bluez said:

Wow a tree in a Z… Haven't seen that in quite a while.

BAT posting must include BAC (bring a chainsaw)...

 

On 10/10/2022 at 4:17 PM, siteunseen said:

Build a tree house up in there and you'll have a vacation rental, Airbnb maybe? "SLEEP IN THE TREES WITH Zs" 

 

 

Forgive the correction, but it isn't a tree, it is a woody shrub. Pretty common around here, and this is about as big as they get. 

Edited October 13, 2022 by Racer X

[Carl Beck]

13 hours ago, kats said:

Hi Carl, I want to know how much it will be on the market if some one puts a S20 in this “something short  “ 69 240Z .

Now a S20 is 42000 USD for American people. 

Kats

Hi Kats:   That would be such an unusual engine swap for a 69 240Z;  I wouldn’t have any previous sales to compare it to.   It is not unusual to have a far more powerful engine put into a Classic Z Car, but usually that engine with say 350/400HP would cost less than $10K.  There are a large number of Buyers that would love 350HP for an additional $10K or more. Just don't know how many would spring for an additional $40K or more for 160HP swap.   

[HS30-H]

7 hours ago, Carl Beck said:

Hi Kats:   That would be such an unusual engine swap for a 69 240Z;  I wouldn’t have any previous sales to compare it to.   It is not unusual to have a far more powerful engine put into a Classic Z Car, but usually that engine with say 350/400HP would cost less than $10K.  There are a large number of Buyers that would love 350HP for an additional $10K or more. Just don't know how many would spring for an additional $40K or more for 160HP swap.   

Classic.

No mention of the S20 engine's historical significance in the 270KK/'Maru Z'/S30-series Z story and no mention of the fact that the very fabric of that (theoretical) '69 240Z concerned already had S20-specific DNA, let alone mention of the S20's heritage, quality, character, the drivability of the package and - let's face it - the wow factor.

Re-creating one of the S30-series Z's long lost prototypes (which is what an S20-swapped '69 LHD Z would be) could be a great 'what if' project along the lines of Jay Ataka's 'Phantom Z Sport Wagon'.

And judging an S20-swapped car solely on its power rating would be equivalent to judging that 'Phantom Z Sport Wagon' purely on its additional load space. Totally missing the point...

     

[Gav240z]

On 10/8/2022 at 1:29 PM, Carl Beck said:

This one surprised me - It is a very nice 240Z and worth the money - IF - it didn't need floorboards replaced. It might not matter at all to the current owner, but when he goes to resell it - buyers might be a lot more picky. Not saying he paid too much - just saying it surprised me that two buyers were willing to go above $26/28K.

I think $30k for such a Z is cheap in today's market. We've been paying much more than that, for much rougher for ages in the HS30 marketplace simply because so few cars are around these days. It's an excellent starting point to jump in and drive and enjoy.

[Gav240z]

On 10/2/2022 at 8:09 AM, Racer X said:

I have never seen a Z with a vinyl roof. Gotta say, it isn’t for me. Looks like crap.

Many many years ago I test drove a 260z 2+2 with a vinyl roof with my step dad. We both agreed we didn't like it, at the time I told the seller it was the reason I didn't want to buy it. He understood and said it wasn't the best look either, but over time I kind of don't mind it as much as I did back then. I still don't love it, but it is of that era.

[Gav240z]

14 hours ago, HS30-H said:

Classic.

No mention of the S20 engine's historical significance in the 270KK/'Maru Z'/S30-series Z story and no mention of the fact that the very fabric of that (theoretical) '69 240Z concerned already had S20-specific DNA, let alone mention of the S20's heritage, quality, character, the drivability of the package and - let's face it - the wow factor.

Re-creating one of the S30-series Z's long lost prototypes (which is what an S20-swapped '69 LHD Z would be) could be a great 'what if' project along the lines of Jay Ataka's 'Phantom Z Sport Wagon'.

And judging an S20-swapped car solely on its power rating would be equivalent to judging that 'Phantom Z Sport Wagon' purely on its additional load space. Totally missing the point...

     

Agree, I'd love to slot an S20 motor into 1 of my early HS30's. It's a special bit of engineering, a twin cam engine in 1969 was very exotic equipment and it has plenty of racing pedigree to back it up in the Skyline.

The Hagerty segment is full of inaccuracies but 1 thing it does highlight is the sound of that engine at full song!

 I'm very much about the 432-R look, and I just got myself a set of Kobe Seiko Rally Mag (reproductions from M-speed in 14") to sit on my 240z.


I've also acquired over the years Ikeda Bussan seats, Ura Mach wheel, chrome ring head lamp covers etc.. and my red 240z also has the white stripe long the bottom sill of the car. I'd love an S20 engine to complete a similar look to the attached images.

The quoted S20 engine power is stock on 40mm Mikuni's, but like the RB26 that came later and was quoted at 280HP as per the gentleman's agreement, I'm fairly sure the purpose of the S20 engine was to modify for tuning and racing and so many cars fitted with S20's are not making 160HP anymore.

If it wasn't for the fact that an S20 engine costs so much these days, I'd swap 1 into my Z for sure. In fact at today's prices it kind of makes sense to go for 1 of the Twin Cam L-engine options instead such as the O.S Giken head.

Real Deal vs O.S Giken L-head.

L engine with O.S Giken twin cam head and cloned S20 valve cover.

The real McCoy.

I certainly would pay more for an S20 powered S30Z, than an LS powered S30Z.

[Terrapin Z]

On 10/21/2021 at 12:37 PM, Racer X said:

Another in my neck of the woods. I may have even raced against this car a time or three.

 

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1971-datsun-240z-196/

This crossed my path a couple weeks ago, at the time a 2000GT was on BAT and took everyone's attention, so this never received much conversation. 

The car was a RNM and ended up being sold after the BAT auction for reportedly more than the high bid to an Ohioan. 

The car was listed with a large amount of extra parts which this new owner picked a few parts from but left behind most of the hoard. 

This hoard was recently offered to my Z car club so I inquired and have a deal to get them on Saturday. It should be most of the items show in the BAT listing, I'll know tomorrow when I do and get the. The seller said they guy did not take much. I'll find out tomorrow. 

[Zed Head]

Coincidence, I just posted this in the wrong thread.  Not trying to jump over your post.  Good stuff.

Here's a neat one.  Has some commentary about lime green color and the "Series's".  Has an interesting air dam on the front.  The youtuber is Dennis Collins and he's looking for a hub cap, apparently.  His cars often end up on BAT or at the big auctions.  He does big money cars.  Says that they're going to try to get it up to number 2 condition car or number 1, whatever that means.