November 27, 20213 yr comment_632301 Do you have another restoration candidate in hand? I spend a fair amount of time looking and it seems the reputation of the increase values of these cars has become widespread. Sourcing at decent prices for adequate profit margins seems more challenging? Garrett Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64674-restoration-of-hls30-12070/?&page=20#findComment-632301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 28, 20213 yr Author comment_632304 37 minutes ago, inline6 said: Do you have another restoration candidate in hand? I spend a fair amount of time looking and it seems the reputation of the increase values of these cars has become widespread. Sourcing at decent prices for adequate profit margins seems more challenging? Garrett I have my personal '72 sitting next to this one waiting for it's turn. Along with that I have a few non-Z Datsuns that need the same treatment. I really enjoy the build more so than having a car too nice to use sitting in the garage, so if someone else could enjoy it and enable me to fund the next one it's a win win situation in my eyes. For some reason I am a glutton for punishment. The increased popularity of these cars has definitely made scoring a "barn find" example difficult and more costly. On the flip slide restored examples are fetching healthy numbers, so in a way it all evens out. From what I have seen recently, a good restoration candidate can fetch $5,000-$15,000 depending on year, condition, rust, completeness, etc. Hard costs for parts and materials can vary greatly depending on the restoration direction - factory spec, resto-mod, track car., you name it. Labor will probably be the biggest factor in determining what kind of profit (if any) you can pull from one of these cars. Over the past 16 months we have racked up nearly 1500 hours to build this car. Being that combined we have 35+ years in professional auto body/paint and mechanical engineering, all the labor minus the engine machining was done in-house. I could imagine paying someone else to redo the interior, complete the body work, assembly the rolling shell, etc would quickly eat up any margins. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64674-restoration-of-hls30-12070/?&page=20#findComment-632304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 28, 20213 yr comment_632314 6 hours ago, CW240Z72 said: I have my personal '72 sitting next to this one waiting for it's turn. Along with that I have a few non-Z Datsuns that need the same treatment. I really enjoy the build more so than having a car too nice to use sitting in the garage, so if someone else could enjoy it and enable me to fund the next one it's a win win situation in my eyes. For some reason I am a glutton for punishment. The increased popularity of these cars has definitely made scoring a "barn find" example difficult and more costly. On the flip slide restored examples are fetching healthy numbers, so in a way it all evens out. From what I have seen recently, a good restoration candidate can fetch $5,000-$15,000 depending on year, condition, rust, completeness, etc. Hard costs for parts and materials can vary greatly depending on the restoration direction - factory spec, resto-mod, track car., you name it. Labor will probably be the biggest factor in determining what kind of profit (if any) you can pull from one of these cars. Over the past 16 months we have racked up nearly 1500 hours to build this car. Being that combined we have 35+ years in professional auto body/paint and mechanical engineering, all the labor minus the engine machining was done in-house. I could imagine paying someone else to redo the interior, complete the body work, assembly the rolling shell, etc would quickly eat up any margins. This restoration is truly a benchmark. I have to be honest, when I do work on my 73, your car is in my mind. In no way can I be mistaken for a fabricator or restorer, but I have some skills that allow me to do this all the while making mistakes and then correcting them. I'm now at the point of having fun with my restoration, instead of yelling obesities, turning the lights off and stomping off for a beer. I have told my wife on many occasions, that I dont know what the hell I'm doing, but I still go back out there and try. You have inspired me with this build. I acquired another 240 that will need some restoration, and the more I learn from OJT and people like you, it only brings smiles. Thanks so much for sharing. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64674-restoration-of-hls30-12070/?&page=20#findComment-632314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 28, 20213 yr Author comment_632319 5 hours ago, DC871F said: This restoration is truly a benchmark. I have to be honest, when I do work on my 73, your car is in my mind. In no way can I be mistaken for a fabricator or restorer, but I have some skills that allow me to do this all the while making mistakes and then correcting them. I'm now at the point of having fun with my restoration, instead of yelling obesities, turning the lights off and stomping off for a beer. I have told my wife on many occasions, that I dont know what the hell I'm doing, but I still go back out there and try. You have inspired me with this build. I acquired another 240 that will need some restoration, and the more I learn from OJT and people like you, it only brings smiles. Thanks so much for sharing. Each restoration, rebuild, tear down, and frustration is experienced gained and an opportunity to do better on the next project. Keep up the work and enjoy it the best you can! Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64674-restoration-of-hls30-12070/?&page=20#findComment-632319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 28, 20213 yr Author Popular Post comment_632321 Here are a few of the professional shots from yesterday's events Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64674-restoration-of-hls30-12070/?&page=20#findComment-632321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 28, 20213 yr comment_632323 Unique.. Unrivalled.. Unsurpassed! I cleaned out the dictionary hahaha... pristine! In one word perfect! You hit the nail right on the head! Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64674-restoration-of-hls30-12070/?&page=20#findComment-632323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 28, 20213 yr comment_632333 Beautiful. I've got (what I was told was) an NOS original four speed shift knob. Would sure look great in that car. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64674-restoration-of-hls30-12070/?&page=20#findComment-632333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 28, 20213 yr comment_632335 Wow… unbelievable build! Outstanding! Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64674-restoration-of-hls30-12070/?&page=20#findComment-632335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 28, 20213 yr Author comment_632336 8 minutes ago, Captain Obvious said: Beautiful. I've got (what I was told was) an NOS original four speed shift knob. Would sure look great in that car. Call me crazy, but that shift knob is original to the car, and unrestored. I had to leave ONE thing untouched 😀 Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64674-restoration-of-hls30-12070/?&page=20#findComment-632336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 28, 20213 yr comment_632337 15 minutes ago, CW240Z72 said: Call me crazy, but that shift knob is original to the car, and unrestored. I had to leave ONE thing untouched 😀 That would be "crazy like a fox!" 😉 Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64674-restoration-of-hls30-12070/?&page=20#findComment-632337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 28, 20213 yr comment_632338 Haha! I totally get it! Wasn't sure which side of that fence you would fall on, but thought I would mention I had it. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64674-restoration-of-hls30-12070/?&page=20#findComment-632338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 28, 20213 yr comment_632345 21 hours ago, CW240Z72 said: I really enjoy the build more so than having a car too nice to use sitting in the garage, so if someone else could enjoy it and enable me to fund the next one it's a win win situation in my eyes. For some reason I am a glutton for punishment. The increased popularity of these cars has definitely made scoring a "barn find" example difficult and more costly. On the flip slide restored examples are fetching healthy numbers, so in a way it all evens out. Ditto, we suffer from the same sickness. The car is outstanding, a real benchmark, Congratulations. Edited November 28, 20213 yr by grannyknot Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64674-restoration-of-hls30-12070/?&page=20#findComment-632345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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