Just saw this on an eBay listed high dollar 240Z.  Anybody ever heard of it?  Who is Phillip A. Ray?

An official looking document that says that a car has been officially registered.  I wonder how much you have to pay to get "registered".

Edited December 8, 20204 yr by Zed Head

Not sure what if any value this bestows on your vehicle other than the equivalent of a participation trophy.

 

It's a FaceBook registry. There is a 260Z and a 280Z one as well. 

After you  join their group (free) they supply you this certificate, and offer to sell a sticker for your car. ($4)

You can buy a deluxe certificate with a hi res pic of your car for $20

Carl's list is a lot bigger and more accurate I'm sure. Carl is in the Group.

Phillip Ray is the FB group originator. (admin)

 

Edited December 8, 20204 yr by Terrapin Z
more info

Phil Ray is a good guy and genuine enthusiast, his registry is not a scam. Phil is actively trying to get the current whereabouts and condition of as many 240Z's identified as possible. Its just a personal quest of his.

Thanks jfa.  Here's where I saw it, linked below, on an eBay sale.  Overall, it makes a person realize how strange things are getting, with the internet.  Facebook used to be a weird place where you shared bad pictures and gossiped, and eBay was where people sold their odd old junk.  Now Facebook is where people claim authority over various concerns, and cars and other things are selling for 10's of thousands of dollars on eBay. 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1971-Datsun-Other/264964354469?_trkparms=aid=888008&algo=DISC.CARDS&ao=1&asc=20200220090753&meid=ae4f76d8b3594d12a34b0f7e4337eeb2&pid=100009&rk=1&rkt=1&sd=224263144994&itm=264964354469&pmt=0&noa=1&pg=2047675&algv=DiscV1&_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982

Here's links to the "Registry" clubs.  There's two, a public one and a private one.  Notice also, typical Facebook "joining" is needed to see the actual Registry, the list of cars, if it exists.  There's nothing on the Public page of any value.  

https://www.facebook.com/groups/121977164809467//

https://www.facebook.com/groups/121977164809467/

Edited December 8, 20204 yr by Zed Head

Ha! Clearly the seller is overly self-impressed with the perceived value of being in a free registry. P.T. Barnum would approve.

I'm in that registry. I admire what he is trying to do. Seems like a decent guy. He is probably here as well given his enthusiasm.

2 hours ago, Zed Head said:

Here's links to the "Registry" clubs.  There's two, a public one and a private one.  Notice also, typical Facebook "joining" is needed to see the actual Registry, the list of cars, if it exists.  There's nothing on the Public page of any value.  

https://www.facebook.com/groups/121977164809467//

https://www.facebook.com/groups/121977164809467/

What about people who aren’t on Faceplant and don’t wish to be on it?

I’m not signing up with Faceplant just to get my 14 Z cars on a registry.

 

I signed up for Beck's registry way back when for the same reasons.  I didn't get no stink'n sur-tif-cate Carl!!!  More power to the guy - pass the baton'.

Phil has three 2 digit cars listed.

00023,  00037,  00057   

Phil's a great guy, despite being an Aub. His registry is legit and well curated. I think he's in it for the info, not just the likes, if that makes any difference. Facebook is just a good way to cast a wide net. If anyone doesn't want to join FB but wants to join the registry, I'll be glad to pass the info on to him for inclusion. I believe there are many cars registered there owned by non-facebookers.

There's no value in the certificate posted, the seller is simply using that as a marketing tactic.  I have my Zs registered on both ZHome (Carl Beck) as well as the Facebook group (Phillip).  Both are free, neither add one cent of value to the car.  They are just as advertised, a registry to help preserve data on Z cars knows to currently exist or data of ones known to have gone to Z heaven.  😉  Great info to have available, I've used both in research my self.

 

@Racer X, don't join Facebook just for this...no reason for that, Carl's registry has been around far longer (and both seem to serve the same purpose).