inline6 Posted December 10 Share #109 Posted December 10 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Patcon said: So at Thanksgiving Cody and I tried to prime his engine using a battery and a jump box. Eventually the battery ran down. So today I used my diesel F350 and jumper cables. I cranked it and cranked it. Even in the cold temperatures the starter got warm and I never got flow on the camshaft. So I am going to need to prime it with a drill. Does anyone offer a premade priming spindle? I might have any extra quill somewhere and could DIY something but was wondering if a premade solution existed? If I recall correctly, I made one by buying 1/2" round, aluminum bar from Home Depot, cutting to length and using a hack saw and hand held belt sander to make the drive end. Probably 20 minutes of work to make it. Check the 1/2" dimension before buying it though - pulling that from memory. Edited December 10 by inline6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siteunseen Posted December 10 Share #110 Posted December 10 I made mine out of an old paint roller frame. Cut about a foot out, ground down one end to fit in the spindle gear and let it rip. Don't use the drill's HIGH setting without a cover on there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Obvious Posted December 10 Share #111 Posted December 10 13 hours ago, Patcon said: I cranked it and cranked it. Even in the cold temperatures the starter got warm and I never got flow on the camshaft. Hmmm... Should have picked up oil by now. Do you have the spark plugs out? It will spin a lot faster with a lot less load on the starter with the plugs out. Also, the positive displacement style oil pump probably doesn't do a great job pumping air, so I've always primed it before I put it on. Just pour oil into the pump before you stuff it up into place. Not full to the brim, but just enough that you can tilt the pump during install without the oil running over the sides and making a mess. I also pre-filled the oil filter a bunch. Lastly, I've got my oil prime rod that I can send, but I bet you could make something for a lot cheaper than the shipping. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patcon Posted December 10 Author Share #112 Posted December 10 I'm not sure we filled the oil pump? I will probably start there. I'm not sure we filled the filter either. So I may try those two before I pull the spindle. Thanks for the offer Captain 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patcon Posted December 10 Author Share #113 Posted December 10 So over Thanksgiving when Cody and I were working on the car. We were trying to get it ready for startup. Maybe Christmas, we'll see. We were working on getting the alternator on. Well when you change to the 240z water pump and damper that means the alternator doesn't line up anymore... 😞 So we got out the cut off wheels I cut this off the front and dressed it out and move d it to the rear with a washer. In the future we might make a more elegant solution, but for now it works Another problem we created with the 240z water pump is the 510 fan doesn't fit anymore and there's not enough room for a 240z setup. So these ribs inside the fan prevent it from fitting down against the pulley So more air tools I dressed them up nicely and lightly bead blasted it. I had to make the center hole larger by free-handing it. I also had to add 4 new bolts holes because the bolt pattern is different I had to order longer studs from BelMetric too... Two forward, one back... 😉 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patcon Posted Tuesday at 12:22 AM Author Share #114 Posted Tuesday at 12:22 AM I worked on the engine some more today. My baby orangutan put the oil filter on so tight I couldn't get it off without pliers and I didn't want to mark up the pretty blue filter. So I dropped the oil pump out and filled it about 75% full. It was totally dry even after all the attempts to prime. Rotated it a little to make sure the air was out. Put it back on and hooked it up to my truck again. It primed pretty quick after that. You could tell when it started to prime because it started turning faster and the pitch changed. I blacked out the cowl area Put the fan on after some longer 4mm studs came in from Belmetric I tried to bleed the clutch, but it wouldn't prime. I will check the push rod length next time I work on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Obvious Posted Tuesday at 02:56 PM Share #115 Posted Tuesday at 02:56 PM 14 hours ago, Patcon said: So I dropped the oil pump out and filled it about 75% full. It primed pretty quick after that. Cool. The pump just couldn't seal air without oil in the rotors. Couldn't pull a vacuum to grab more oil. Glad you got it pumping now. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siteunseen Posted Tuesday at 09:32 PM Share #116 Posted Tuesday at 09:32 PM 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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