Posted January 25, 20214 yr comment_615001 I’m a younger kid and I just recently got a 1978 280z. The car will turn over and fire but it will die after I let go of the key or shortly after. I have test the spark plugs and got a new fuel pump. I also shot out the fuel rail and am running the fuel pump right out of the fuel rail. I can’t figure out why it won’t start and would like some help please Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64988-280z-cranks-but-won%E2%80%99t-start/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 25, 20214 yr comment_615003 Let's be specific and precise. Is there still a plate in the driver's side door frame? Can you read the date? What I post assumes that this fits into what is considered the 1978 model year. If I understand you correctly, when you put the key in the START position, the solenoid engages the starter. The starter turns the engine, and the engine fires. (The car starts.) When you release the key to allow the switch to go from START on ON, the car dies immediately or shortly after. (It doesn't run.) I'm not sure what you mean by running the fuel pump right out of the fuel rail. I will have to assume that you have an adequate supply of good gasoline to supply the fuel pump. Here are two possible causes for your problem (though there can be others): The back part of the ignition switch is failing. The circuit for the fuel pump relay is losing the ground at the oil pressure switch. How to diagnose (You will need a multimeter, i.e.: a meter that can measure voltage and resistance.): Ignition Switch Put the meter on DC voltage. If it has ranges, select the lowest range that is above 12 volts (probably 20). Put the positive lead of the meter on the positive terminal of the coil (black wire with white stripe). Put the negative lead on an unpainted surface. I like the bolts of the shock tower. Have someone start the car. You should see around 10 to 12 volts while starting. When the key is released to go from START to ON, make sure you still have voltage. If the voltage drops to 0 when the key is in the ON position, that means the switch is bad. Oil Pressure Switch Put meter on the lowest resistance range. The oil pressure sender has a "T" connector. The oil pressure switch connects to the vertical of the "T". Get one probe in the back of the wire to test. The other probe goes to an unpainted surface. Again, I like the shock tower bolts. Have someone start the car. As the car starts, you should see the resistance measurement go to zero (continuity). If the resistance does not drop, that means you don't have the probe positioned properly, or the oil pressure switch is bad. Let us know the results of these tests. Also, post pictures of you holding the leads in place and of the meter. Please don't post potato quality pictures. Sometimes people don't use the proper technique, and that provides bad results. I don't want you throwing parts at the problem. That gets expensive and frustrating. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64988-280z-cranks-but-won%E2%80%99t-start/#findComment-615003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 25, 20214 yr comment_615008 11 hours ago, silentbug said: running the fuel pump right out of the fuel rail. What does this mean, above? Is the ignition system stock? And is the rest of the car complete? There are several things that need to be connected to get the injectors to open and close. It might be that the EFI system doesn't have power and it's starting from the cold start valve fuel. You'll need a multimeter or test light to make much progress. Check the EFI system fusible links. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64988-280z-cranks-but-won%E2%80%99t-start/#findComment-615008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 25, 20214 yr comment_615009 Will it crank and idle? Dies out when you give it gas from the pedal? Just reading the cold start valve running the car. That's a good point. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64988-280z-cranks-but-won%E2%80%99t-start/#findComment-615009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 25, 20214 yr Author comment_615019 I had a bad tank in the car so I made my own using a gas can and hooked it up to the exit and entry parts for the fuel railThe ignition system is stock and everything should be completely Won’t idle for more the 5seconds and if it idles it sounds rough The gas pedal get stuck when you push it down Sent from my iPhone using Classic Zcar Club mobile Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64988-280z-cranks-but-won%E2%80%99t-start/#findComment-615019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 25, 20214 yr comment_615022 I would check the throttle plate in the throttle body. The sweeper vane under the black cover on the side of the AFM to make sure it moves freely. Then maybe the idle contact on the TPS, the other black box. How long has it been sitting? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64988-280z-cranks-but-won%E2%80%99t-start/#findComment-615022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 25, 20214 yr Author comment_615025 It has been sitting for at least 5 year and I have already checked the AFM and it seems to be working correctly Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64988-280z-cranks-but-won%E2%80%99t-start/#findComment-615025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 25, 20214 yr comment_615026 1 hour ago, silentbug said: I had a bad tank in the car so I made my own using a gas can and hooked it up to the exit and entry parts for the fuel rail What kind of fuel pump did you use? You need a high pressure fuel injection pump and high pressure hose. If you're going to make it run right you'll need these. The 1980 book covers all the way back to 1975. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64988-280z-cranks-but-won%E2%80%99t-start/#findComment-615026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 25, 20214 yr Author comment_615027 The was running when was put in storageSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64988-280z-cranks-but-won%E2%80%99t-start/#findComment-615027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 25, 20214 yr Author comment_615028 Thanks I have been look at some manuals to buy and the fuel pump that I bought was an aftermarket on built for scars it puts out around 40-45 psiSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64988-280z-cranks-but-won%E2%80%99t-start/#findComment-615028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 25, 20214 yr Author comment_615033 *ZcarsSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64988-280z-cranks-but-won%E2%80%99t-start/#findComment-615033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 25, 20214 yr comment_615034 30 minutes ago, silentbug said: Thanks I have been look at some manuals to buy and the fuel pump that I bought was an aftermarket on built for scars it puts out around 40-45 psi Did you get the hoses connected right and the wiring too? The pumps will run backward and if you connect the pump to the return line it will be blocked by the FPR. Your best option right now is to get a decent meter, volts and ohms, and take some measurements. Confirm that you have power to the injectors for one thing. If the injectors don't have power they won't do anything. Kind of seems like you don't have injector power. You probably have a bad connection at the EFI fusible link by the battery. You can do one thing at a time and think between each one or you can spend an hour and take a whole bunch of measurements. Write down the numbers, whatever you decide. "Good" is not as good a real number. Good luck. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64988-280z-cranks-but-won%E2%80%99t-start/#findComment-615034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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