Posted January 25, 20214 yr comment_615032 Hey guys I have a 77 280z and I was wondering what is the highest compression ratio that can be run with the stock efi system? looked online there is a lot of information but nothing specific to the stock efi that I’ve seen. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64992-highest-compression-ratio-with-stock-fuel-injections/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 25, 20214 yr comment_615039 It depends on the fuel being used and the camshaft and how you plan to drive it. Best to stay away from highest. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64992-highest-compression-ratio-with-stock-fuel-injections/#findComment-615039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 28, 20214 yr Author comment_615179 On 1/25/2021 at 1:40 PM, Zed Head said: It depends on the fuel being used and the camshaft and how you plan to drive it. Best to stay away from highest. Im thinking about stage 3 cam with a thinner head gasket.. and maybe flat pistons. But I want to know if the stock efi would be able to handle that Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64992-highest-compression-ratio-with-stock-fuel-injections/#findComment-615179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 28, 20214 yr comment_615181 I don't believe the ECU will handle a stage 3 cam. I am not sure it will even handle a stage 2 cam. The EFI is very basic and doesn't handle any but the most mild changes. Increased compression normally needs increased fuel and the stock system would be able to provide it. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64992-highest-compression-ratio-with-stock-fuel-injections/#findComment-615181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 29, 20214 yr comment_615206 17 hours ago, 280zdude said: Im thinking about stage 3 cam with a thinner head gasket.. and maybe flat pistons. But I want to know if the stock efi would be able to handle that "Handles" means different things to different people. You could make probably make it run, for sure, but it would be probably have problems in certain areas, like idle or cruise if you tuned it for top end, or vice versa. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64992-highest-compression-ratio-with-stock-fuel-injections/#findComment-615206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 29, 20214 yr comment_615212 What do think about a potentiometer to add more fuel for a cam? I asked about this earlier but can't remember who or what the answers were. I have a pot knob on my'77 and can flood it out with fuel or starve it. I think it's a 7,500ohm volume knob from radio shack? I do know Schneider ask if it's efi or carbs when ordering so I know it's an issue. That maybe another advantage of hole #3 on the cam spocket from the beginning. Racer Brown's L motor chapter 13, FYI. Edited January 29, 20214 yr by siteunseen Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64992-highest-compression-ratio-with-stock-fuel-injections/#findComment-615212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 29, 20214 yr comment_615215 Hole 3 significance ? Racer Brown? @siteunseen You would have to trick the EFI to give more fuel . Also have to trick the ignition not to time in too much or kapowy . Probably one of the worst heads for this scenario - pistons go without saying . Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64992-highest-compression-ratio-with-stock-fuel-injections/#findComment-615215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 29, 20214 yr comment_615217 That's what the potentiometer does, trick the ecu to richen or lean the fuel/air mixture. The 3rd hole advances the the cam timing. It's just some drinking thinking I've pickled around with, you know stirring the pot a little more. I get bored... Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64992-highest-compression-ratio-with-stock-fuel-injections/#findComment-615217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 29, 20214 yr comment_615218 The L28 likes compression. Wakes it right up. The ecu does not like funky signal. My old website PlanetZ from the 90’s gave instructions on how to put NA electronics into a Turbo AFM. Can it be done? Sure. It runs like $^!#. Use FASTEFI or one of the other aftermarket EFI systems. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64992-highest-compression-ratio-with-stock-fuel-injections/#findComment-615218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 29, 20214 yr Author comment_615219 This is the camshaft description. I was thinking adding this and possibly a thinner head gasket and go from there.. but it seems like that even then would be too much? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64992-highest-compression-ratio-with-stock-fuel-injections/#findComment-615219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 29, 20214 yr comment_615226 You're in California. You might not pass the emissions test. That's another "doesn't work with stock EFI" problem. Emissions, smelly exhaust, running lean at high RPM, those are the things that have to be balanced, that people have problems with. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64992-highest-compression-ratio-with-stock-fuel-injections/#findComment-615226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 5, 20214 yr Author comment_615610 On 1/29/2021 at 10:23 AM, Zed Head said: You're in California. You might not pass the emissions test. That's another "doesn't work with stock EFI" problem. Emissions, smelly exhaust, running lean at high RPM, those are the things that have to be balanced, that people have problems with. At this point I don’t think I was going to anyways lol the whole egr side of the intake is corroded Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64992-highest-compression-ratio-with-stock-fuel-injections/#findComment-615610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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