ZH, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the relay panel can be unbolted. This might make it easier to get to the relay. 

Remember these relays are old so they can wear out. Once you figure out the terminals, (i.e. which one does what) you can substitute a modern relay.

It might, I'm not sure.  I'd use a short Phillips head and see if could get the screws out.  Or a long one, sometimes a long blade will reach through the morass and get to the screw heads.  Looks like two and it should fall right out.

I just pulled out my spare from the garage.

Mine only had one screw. Getting it out is not half as fun as getting it back in.

Edited June 25, 20213 yr by Jeff Berk

Ok.  I will try to get it out. But here is my main question.  With power on car on - when I touch the green wire coming from horn with tester it lights up. When I press the horn button the light goes out. Is that correct ??

Here is a video 

8 hours ago, Jeff Berk said:

I’d expect this from Captain Obvious. 

Me too. 

what does that mean?? working correct or not?

1 hour ago, Shawninvancouver said:

Here is a video 

IMG_3047.MOV

Light is on when I touch the green wire abs when I press the horn button light goes off.  Is that right ? Try watching video on phone. 

Most of us don't want to watch videos on our phones!

I want download anything to my phone.

ok.. anyways.. i also have these extra wires coming out of console  harness.. are they for an automatic?? also can to figure out the 2 greens circled at top.. wre not connected to anything.....any ideas??