Posted June 30, 20213 yr comment_624306 Since there is still a lot of stuff about these not known exactly and many confusing topics, thousand of pages and myths, I will try here to make it easier. If anyone has additional information or something is not right, please post, then I will modify the 1 post. This is for stock factory transmissions only, NOT competition ones. There are A, B and C types transmissions ( C was never used in Z cars so I will not add these here ) Update 9/7-21 : Also the 4.11 ratio R180 was not used on Z cars ( correct me if I am wrong ) Also not sure if 3.90 was used in the USA on the 260/280Z and ZX So far I have: Nissan S30 Fairlady Z Japan till 1978: F4W71A manual F4W71B manual FS5C71A manual FS5C71B manual 3 speed automatic 3N71A 3 speed automatic 3N71B R180 Differential, possible gear ratios available: 3.36 / 3.54 / 3.90 240Z: Datsun 240Z USA and Canada F4W71A manual F4W71B manual 3 speed automatic 3N71A 3 speed automatic 3N71B R180 Differential, possible gear ratios available: 3.36 / 3.54 Datsun 240Z Europe, UK, rest of the world FS5C71A manual FS5C71B manual 3 speed automatic 3N71A 3 speed automatic 3N71B R180 Differential, possible gear ratios available: 3.54 / 3.90 260Z: Datsun 260Z USA and Canada F4W71B manual FS5W71B manual 3 speed automatic 3N71B R180 Differential, possible gear ratios available: 3.36 / 3.54 / 3.90 Datsun 260Z Europe, UK, rest of the world FS5C71B manual 3 speed automatic 3N71B R180/R200 Differential, possible gear ratios available: 3.54 / 3.90 280Z: Datsun 280Z USA and Canada F4W71B manual FS5W71B manual 3 speed automatic 3N71B R180/R200 Differential, possible gear ratios available: 3.36 / 3.54 / 3.70 / 3.90 ----- ------ ----- ------ ----- ----- 280ZX: Datsun 280ZX USA and Canada F4W71B manual FS5W71B manual 5 speed Borg Warner T5 3 speed automatic Jatco 3N71B R180/R200 Differential, possible gear ratios available: 3.36 / 3.54 / 3.90 Datsun 280ZX Europe,UK, rest of the world FS5W71B manual 5 speed Borg Warner T5 3 speed automatic Jatco 3N71B R180/R200 Differential, possible gear ratios available: 3.54 / 3.70 / 3.90 Nissan S130 Fairlady Z Japan: FS5W71B manual 5 speed Borg Warner T5 3 speed automatic Jatco 3N71B R180/R200 Differential, possible gear ratios available: 3.54 / 3.70 / 3.90 Edited July 9, 20213 yr by bartsscooterservice Update Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/65551-datsun-nissan-z-and-zx-types-of-transmissions-and-differentials/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 30, 20213 yr comment_624307 Nice work!Manual 260z in the UK I believe started out with R200 3.7 and then went to a 3.54 in the last couple of years (77-78). Happy to be corrected.280zx used R200 3.9 for NA manual and I think 3.7 for turbo. My 3.9 R200 came from an Arizona manual ‘84 280zx. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/65551-datsun-nissan-z-and-zx-types-of-transmissions-and-differentials/#findComment-624307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 30, 20213 yr comment_624308 My 1976 280 4 speed Manual came with a R200 3.54 Edited June 30, 20213 yr by crayZlair added more for clarity Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/65551-datsun-nissan-z-and-zx-types-of-transmissions-and-differentials/#findComment-624308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 30, 20213 yr comment_624309 I think that Carl Beck has a pretty good description on his zhome site. I'll see if I can find it. You can't generalize by just the type of car. You have to go by year. Here are four examples. 1976 USA/Canada 280Z FSM 1978 USA/Canada 280Z FSM 1979 USA/Canada 280ZX FSM 1981 USA/Canada FSM Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/65551-datsun-nissan-z-and-zx-types-of-transmissions-and-differentials/#findComment-624309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 30, 20213 yr comment_624310 More from 1981, PD chapter. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/65551-datsun-nissan-z-and-zx-types-of-transmissions-and-differentials/#findComment-624310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 30, 20213 yr Author comment_624318 Okay so the 280z also came with the R200. And maybe the R200 allready started with the 260z but we are not sure about that yet? @Zed Head i don't want to go by year etc this will make it to complicated. But only by z model and what can be found on them as a general guideline. Edited June 30, 20213 yr by bartsscooterservice Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/65551-datsun-nissan-z-and-zx-types-of-transmissions-and-differentials/#findComment-624318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 30, 20213 yr comment_624320 Well. I have an early 260Z, build date 07/74 and it had an 3.36 R180 stock. Can't remember but I don't think I've seen a late 260 with an R200 stock... (Good friend Patrick has a late 260 - but it was an auto car originally - with an R180...) I'm interested in knowing too as the late 260's were fairly close otherwise to the early 280Z. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/65551-datsun-nissan-z-and-zx-types-of-transmissions-and-differentials/#findComment-624320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 30, 20213 yr comment_624324 I am pretty sure that the R200 started with the 1975 280Z. It has its own unique pinion flange bolt pattern and bolt size. I have never heard of the different pattern for a 260Z diff. From 1976 on the pinion flange pattern and bolt size stayed the same until the 1984 300ZX's with the short nose R200's. You have to go by year because Nissan went away from the R180 then started using it again as I showed above for 1976 and 1978. The same body types used different diffs in 1978, according to the FSM. In 1976 they all used the R200. Edited June 30, 20213 yr by Zed Head Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/65551-datsun-nissan-z-and-zx-types-of-transmissions-and-differentials/#findComment-624324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
July 1, 20213 yr Author comment_624341 8 hours ago, cgsheen1 said: Well. I have an early 260Z, build date 07/74 and it had an 3.36 R180 stock. Can't remember but I don't think I've seen a late 260 with an R200 stock... (Good friend Patrick has a late 260 - but it was an auto car originally - with an R180...) I'm interested in knowing too as the late 260's were fairly close otherwise to the early 280Z. Yes.. that's what I want to prevent with the " confusion " part.. many Z's have been modded, and then the reactions are confusing because they think that R200 came stock on a 260z... Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/65551-datsun-nissan-z-and-zx-types-of-transmissions-and-differentials/#findComment-624341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
July 1, 20213 yr comment_624342 16 hours ago, AK260 said: Manual 260z in the UK I believe started out with R200 3.7 and then went to a 3.54 in the last couple of years (77-78). Happy to be corrected. Correct. Also, as in first post, UK, Europe/rest of the world didn't get the 280Z, its just a North American thing. The North American market had the 260z (RS30) for 1 (?) year, whilst other markets carried on the the 260Z (e.g. Aust/NZ /even Japan before Nissan recalled all the 260Z they sold). UK (and probably Europe- not sure) 280zx (s130) was R180 for autos, R200 for manual 'boxes. Also, the Japanese market had the S31 for the last couple (?) of years, more than likely 'boxes and diffs were the same (would have to look at fiche to confirm) Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/65551-datsun-nissan-z-and-zx-types-of-transmissions-and-differentials/#findComment-624342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
July 1, 20213 yr comment_624343 35 minutes ago, RIP260Z said: The North American market had the 260z (RS30) for 1 (?) year . . . . Correct that the 260Z was only produced in North America for one year, 1974. There was two versions, the early one had the small bumpers like the 240Z, the late version had the 5mph crash bumpers like the 280Z. One more detail. All 240Z, 260Z and 280Z cars sold in North America had HLS30….. as the beginning of the VIN number, not RS30. The HLS30 cars were left hand drive, the RS30 cars were right hand drive, Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/65551-datsun-nissan-z-and-zx-types-of-transmissions-and-differentials/#findComment-624343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
July 1, 20213 yr comment_624346 2 hours ago, Racer X said: Correct that the 260Z was only produced in North America for one year, 1974. Aha! So THAT'S what they were doing in Area 54... 2 hours ago, Racer X said: One more detail. All 240Z, 260Z and 280Z cars sold in North America had HLS30….. as the beginning of the VIN number, not RS30. Prefix for the USA/Canada Datsun 260Z model was 'RLS30'. Check your factory documentation. Threads like these start out with the best of intentions, but soon become self-defeating messes. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/65551-datsun-nissan-z-and-zx-types-of-transmissions-and-differentials/#findComment-624346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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