siteunseen Posted August 3, 2021 Share #61 Posted August 3, 2021 (edited) Good luck with it! Don't scratch that nice paint job. Those HF levelers are nice but scary when you're working by yourself. They pop and are jerky when using them while loaded down with the motor. That little handle is useless, put a socket on the other end. Grease the bottom rail the roller rides on, makes it a little smoother. I found an old post of mine showing what I did. Might help you too. Here's some reading for ya. Below the videos it's stuff from classiczcars.com. https://www.google.com/search?q=engine+leveler+classiczcars.com&client=ms-android-americamovil-us-revc&ei=_6wJYZWmJtScwbkPxba40AY&oq=engine+leveler+classiczcars.com&gs_lcp=ChNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwEAMyBQgAEM0COgQIHhAKUJuaAVjkrAFgxrkBaABwAHgAgAHIAYgB5g2SAQYwLjExLjGYAQCgAQHAAQE&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp Skateboarding comment. I always put my right foot down on the toe box of my tennis shoes and used that as a brake. Pissed my Mom off but what didn't eh? I had to google "eh" to figure out what @Racer X meant. Edited August 3, 2021 by siteunseen 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Av8ferg Posted August 4, 2021 Author Share #62 Posted August 4, 2021 Cliff, thanks for that. I think it gave me more to think about. I’m a bit concerned that my garage might not be tall enough using the load leveler with its standard set up. My garage is 9’9” tall and I don’t know what I’ll need but I don’t want to be in the middle of the pull out to figure it out, One response on the thread you sent the guy was worried about his 10’ garage not being enough, So, you mentioned that using ratchet straps should mitigate the height concern. Did you strap one to each end of the leveler or did you just attach them to the main hook on the hoist? Does anyone have any pics of that set up. I have two helpers on call to help me get though this, both with the same level of auto skills as me…aka amateurs. Side bar Cliff……my kid is burning though his vans (3 this year) because he thinks they’re perfect brakes. Things haven’t changed. We didn't have a lot of money when I was a young kid, my mom just said well it looks like you’re going to school with holes in your shoes. All my shoes were hand-me-downs from my brother until I was probably in 7th grade. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siteunseen Posted August 4, 2021 Share #63 Posted August 4, 2021 I didn't use straps but I did read that. here's my setup before install. I used an old valve cover so not to scratch up my nice pretty one. Here's one of my favorite " calm down it'll be fine" pictutres from @Jeff G 78. He really helped me from jumping off the roof. He's like a big 'ol walking talking Valium. He's the one that told me to jack the rear up and I made the decision to let the air out of the front tires as much as I could while still getting the hoist under there. My ceiling is low too but it's exsposed rafters so I lined the hoist up in between the rafters. That bought me another 10 or 12 inches. When it was all over with I'd say I overthought the whole deal, it's easy and I did it all by myself. You got this Ferg. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Av8ferg Posted August 4, 2021 Author Share #64 Posted August 4, 2021 Thanks Cliff, I like to think things through before jumping in head first. I’ve leaned that lesson the hard way in life. Do you think I need to remove the intake and exhaust manifolds first. Would prefer not to and just remove the exhaust pipe from the manifold. I have an old valve cover…good idea! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siteunseen Posted August 4, 2021 Share #65 Posted August 4, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Av8ferg said: Thanks Cliff, I like to think things through before jumping in head first. I’ve leaned that lesson the hard way in life. Do you think I need to remove the intake and exhaust manifolds first. Would prefer not to and just remove the exhaust pipe from the manifold. I have an old valve cover…good idea! That's what I did. I only removed the hood then I unhooked everything up top, took the exhaust pipe off and the driveshaft then put a rubber cap over the transmission. I think I pulled the alternator and starter too. Don't forget the WD-40 cap over the clip for the hood hold up rod. Here's a good thread from '05. Post #15 shows the rubber plug I'm talking about. You'll read about rolling the car out of your garage to get some stuff off then roll it back in for the removal, good advice. Edited August 4, 2021 by siteunseen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racer X Posted August 4, 2021 Share #66 Posted August 4, 2021 17 hours ago, siteunseen said: I had to google "eh" to figure out what @Racer X meant. I’ve lived an hour and a half drive from Canada since 1970. Going to Canada is like driving across town. Been there so many times I lost count. When I turned 18 the drinking age up there was 18 so we would drive up Friday after work and spend the weekend bar hopping and sleeping in my friend’s van. Always came home speaking “Canadian”. That’s what its all aboot, eh? Spent lots of dolers on beer. When I was in Roanoke, Virginia a guy there accused me of being Canadian, said I had an accent. So, yeah, I speak Canadian, eh? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jeff G 78 Posted August 4, 2021 Popular Post Share #67 Posted August 4, 2021 Thanks for the mention Cliff @siteunseen. I would not recommend removing the intake and exhaust manifolds. I have done it that way, but getting to all the studs without breaking them is hard enough on a stand, let alone in an awkward position while in the car. Pulling the engine/trans is easy. Just make sure you plug the trans output as Cliff instructed. I use an old driveshaft yoke which seals perfectly, but a pain cap or a sandwich bag and rubber bands will work as well. The higher you get the rear of the car, the easier it is and the less height you need for the pull. You said you bought a hoist. Is it folding or fixed leg? I found that the folding hoists don't quite have enough reach for a Z and you will need to remove the front bumper. It will work to get the engine out, but the reach is a few inches short to get it back in and aligned over the mounts. I struggled and finally bought a non-folding hoist which you see in the pic Cliff posted. You might want to tape a rag over the sloped side of the hood latch bracket, The valve cover will be very close to it and can easily scrape the paint off. My crusty race car doesn't matter, so I let it drag if needed. I do swap valve covers if I have a nice one on the engine. I usually always use two tie-down straps on each lift eye. That way, I can release pressure on one while the other holds the load. It's great for getting the angle right. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJ Posted August 4, 2021 Share #68 Posted August 4, 2021 18 hours ago, siteunseen said: I had to google "eh" to figure out what @Racer X meant. "eh" is Canadian for "You know what I mean?" 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Av8ferg Posted August 4, 2021 Author Share #69 Posted August 4, 2021 Jeff, Thanks for the advice. I have a folding lift. I can easily get the bumper off since it’s a new 240 style and not the railroad tie. Good advice all around. Got the radiator out today(what a mess) had to kick my dogs out of the garage before they tried to drink it. Wiring all labeled and disconnected. Working on the AC lines and compressor. Didn’t think the system was charged having sat so long. Got a nice blast of refrigerant on one line. Throttle links off, starter and heater hoses done. Going to drain the oil and trans fluid next. Headed to Lowe’s to get some rubber plumbing caps. Friend headed over to help with hood this afternoon. (Thanks Cliff for reminding me to mark the hinges). Cliff what’s are you talking about when you mention the WD-40 cap on the hood rod? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff G 78 Posted August 4, 2021 Share #70 Posted August 4, 2021 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Av8ferg said: Cliff what’s are you talking about when you mention the WD-40 cap on the hood rod? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk On the radiator support, you will see a spring clip that holds the hood prop. Remove the prop rod and then tape the little red cap off of a WD40 can over the clip. The oil pan will easily snap the clip off if you don't protect it with the WD40 cap. Edited August 4, 2021 by Jeff G 78 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siteunseen Posted August 4, 2021 Share #71 Posted August 4, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, SteveJ said: "eh" is Canadian for "You know what I mean?" I took it to mean "in agreement with" which is the same as you say but different words. 6 of one 1, half a dozen of the other, eh? Edited August 4, 2021 by siteunseen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Av8ferg Posted August 4, 2021 Author Share #72 Posted August 4, 2021 All I have left is the exhaust and drive shaft those exhaust puppies are on there tight! Breaking out the 3/4” impact wrench. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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