Posted August 4, 20213 yr comment_626316 Probably a dumb question: Does this material need to be ground down? The header was mounted like this for who knows how long. Any header I have seen has a flat mounting surface. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/65682-grind-off-material/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
August 4, 20213 yr comment_626319 I don't see any leaking, black soot, so maybe the intake gasket sealed it up good enough. I would measure the protruding section of the header. It may fit inside the exhaust ports? My 2 from MSA were flat as you say. Is there a name anywhere readable like Pacesetter? Those are cheap headers but like I saw there doesn't look like any leaking. Was it noisy? Ticking like a bad exhaust manifold/header seal. More info on any type problem or noise would be helpful to us. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/65682-grind-off-material/#findComment-626319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
August 4, 20213 yr comment_626320 The area around the ports that looks like it is raised 1-2mm?I would think it would be fine, but maybe there’s an argument that the header has more of a chance to warp. It should give good pressure against the gasket surface around the ports though.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/65682-grind-off-material/#findComment-626320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
August 5, 20213 yr comment_626323 I think those are intentional. They raise the pressure, force per unit area, on the gasket to give a better seal. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/65682-grind-off-material/#findComment-626323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
August 5, 20213 yr comment_626325 It's easier to get those raised areas flat than the entire flange and as said above the concentrate the pressure. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/65682-grind-off-material/#findComment-626325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
August 5, 20213 yr Author comment_626337 Thanks for the info. This is after I cleaned them up. Cylinder 3 was ticking, and the exhaust part of the gasket was blown out right next to it. New gasket is already installed. I still need to change out the valve stem seals. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/65682-grind-off-material/#findComment-626337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
August 5, 20213 yr comment_626343 15 hours ago, DuckManNK said: Probably a dumb question: Does this material need to be ground down? The header was mounted like this for who knows how long. Any header I have seen has a flat mounting surface. The raised area is the weld between the flange and the tube. It gets machined flat and true when Newton aid in sealing when the intake and exhaust are installed. A quick cleanup with a large flat file is a good idea before reassembly. Careful to not cut them out of true or damage them. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/65682-grind-off-material/#findComment-626343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
August 6, 20213 yr Author comment_626386 Just wanted to share what the gasket looked like. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/65682-grind-off-material/#findComment-626386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
August 6, 20213 yr comment_626405 14 hours ago, DuckManNK said: Just wanted to share what the gasket looked like. That gasket isn’t correct for use with a header. It looks like an OEM gasket with a sandwich of metal and fiber. The header gasket is all fiber, with no metal embedded in it. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/65682-grind-off-material/#findComment-626405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
August 6, 20213 yr comment_626419 You'll want to check the flatness and quality of the surface on the head. Maybe have both surfaces skimmed. There's another Datsun site out there with a couple of guys that say they don't use any gasket at all. They just mill both surfaces and bolt it up. They say it works but who knows. Anyway, the head surface is often overlooked. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/65682-grind-off-material/#findComment-626419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
August 6, 20213 yr comment_626422 5 hours ago, Racer X said: That gasket isn’t correct for use with a header. It looks like an OEM gasket with a sandwich of metal and fiber. The header gasket is all fiber, with no metal embedded in it. I've never heard that before, what is the rational behind having no metal in the gasket? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/65682-grind-off-material/#findComment-626422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
August 6, 20213 yr comment_626425 Mine's got a lot! Not in it but outside of it. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/65682-grind-off-material/#findComment-626425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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