Car will not start

[SteveJ]

1 minute ago, Wally said:

working way thru list stuff here. rotor is quite bit off...should be pointing where green top is. I did remove oil pump and distributor.... 

does this mean i put it back in wrong?

Well, if you have #1 at TDC on the compression stroke, yes, you put the oil pump and distributor back in wrong.

[KeysZ]

It looks off, and probably one crankshaft revolution.  It has to sync with the oil pump so there is some trial and error involved.  You can verify the compression stroke on #1 by taking off the valve cover and checking that the cam lobes are not opening the valves on #1.  Get the engine on the #1 compression stroke and rotate the engine, by hand with the plugs out until the timing mark on the damper is between 0 and 10 degrees on the timing tab then set the distributor back in place with the rotor pointing at the # 1 plug wire.

[SteveJ]

From the EL section of the FSM:

Not having done that before, I would say you're looking for a mark like on the shaft in the view on the left.

Or this:

[KeysZ]

Steve is right on the money with the oil pump.  I believe the distributor body position may be off. I think the vacuum advance diaphragm should be on the other side.

[SteveJ]

Here's an image that @Zed Headposted in a thread a few years ago:

And here's one of how the oil pump shaft should look from the top before you install the distributor (courtesy of @siteunseen)

[siteunseen]

There's a way to set the spindle in the pump I learned in the "Monroe how to" book. You go half a bolt counter clockwise when instslling then it falls dead on when you bolt it up. Let me see if I can find that...

Here's a thread that might help then the whole Google search below that. Good luck. It's really easy once you wrap your head around the process.

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=tom+monroe's+how+to+rebuild+a+nissan+oil+pump+alignment+siteunseen+classiczcars.com+&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwif7cPQ_vDzAhVTQkIHHS2EA0QQ2-cCegQIABAB&oq=tom+monroe's+how+to+rebuild+a+nissan+oil+pump+alignment+siteunseen+classiczcars.com+&gs_lcp=ChJtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1pbWcQAzoFCCEQqwJKBQg9EgExUM4OWLc3YNhDaABwAHgBgAHnAYgB-guSAQUwLjkuMZgBAKABAcABAQ&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-img&ei=oqB8YZ-UBNOEieoPrYiOoAQ&bih=449&biw=320&client=ms-android-americamovil-us-revc&prmd=svixn

Edited October 30, 2021 by siteunseen

[SteveJ]

14 hours ago, siteunseen said:

There's a way to set the spindle in the pump I learned in the "Monroe how to" book. You go half a bolt counter clockwise when instslling then it falls dead on when you bolt it up. Let me see if I can find that...

Here's a thread that might help then the whole Google search below that. Good luck. It's really easy once you wrap your head around the process.

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=tom+monroe's+how+to+rebuild+a+nissan+oil+pump+alignment+siteunseen+classiczcars.com+&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwif7cPQ_vDzAhVTQkIHHS2EA0QQ2-cCegQIABAB&oq=tom+monroe's+how+to+rebuild+a+nissan+oil+pump+alignment+siteunseen+classiczcars.com+&gs_lcp=ChJtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1pbWcQAzoFCCEQqwJKBQg9EgExUM4OWLc3YNhDaABwAHgBgAHnAYgB-guSAQUwLjkuMZgBAKABAcABAQ&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-img&ei=oqB8YZ-UBNOEieoPrYiOoAQ&bih=449&biw=320&client=ms-android-americamovil-us-revc&prmd=svixn

I'm glad I tagged you, Cliff.

[Wally]

18 hours ago, KeysZ said:

It looks off, and probably one crankshaft revolution.  It has to sync with the oil pump so there is some trial and error involved.  You can verify the compression stroke on #1 by taking off the valve cover and checking that the cam lobes are not opening the valves on #1.  Get the engine on the #1 compression stroke and rotate the engine, by hand with the plugs out until the timing mark on the damper is between 0 and 10 degrees on the timing tab then set the distributor back in place with the rotor pointing at the # 1 plug wire.

how can i rotate it by hand?

[Wally]

18 hours ago, SteveJ said:

Here's an image that @Zed Headposted in a thread a few years ago:

And here's one of how the oil pump shaft should look from the top before you install the distributor (courtesy of @siteunseen)

just checked. you are right. this tang isnt aligned like image here. 

[Wally]

16 hours ago, siteunseen said:

There's a way to set the spindle in the pump I learned in the "Monroe how to" book. You go half a bolt counter clockwise when instslling then it falls dead on when you bolt it up. Let me see if I can find that...

Here's a thread that might help then the whole Google search below that. Good luck. It's really easy once you wrap your head around the process.

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=tom+monroe's+how+to+rebuild+a+nissan+oil+pump+alignment+siteunseen+classiczcars.com+&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwif7cPQ_vDzAhVTQkIHHS2EA0QQ2-cCegQIABAB&oq=tom+monroe's+how+to+rebuild+a+nissan+oil+pump+alignment+siteunseen+classiczcars.com+&gs_lcp=ChJtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1pbWcQAzoFCCEQqwJKBQg9EgExUM4OWLc3YNhDaABwAHgBgAHnAYgB-guSAQUwLjkuMZgBAKABAcABAQ&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-img&ei=oqB8YZ-UBNOEieoPrYiOoAQ&bih=449&biw=320&client=ms-android-americamovil-us-revc&prmd=svixn

so Madkaw said

TDC COMPRESSION STROKE!!!!!!

Pull #1 plug and shove a vacuum plug that just fits the hole in there. Turn over motor till that sucker shoots across the room- you found compression stroke . Now line everything up.

 

Do you agree. remove just 1st plug... put in a vacuum plug and turn the key until it blows out? Then its on compression #1 stroke?

[Zed Head]

You can remove the valve cover and check the cam lobes also.  Or stick a hose in the spark plug hole and blow.  If it's on the exhaust stroke it will be easy.

Many ways.

[Wally]

I put rubber plug into #1 spark plug and had wife turn key. Holy crap heck....that thing shot out like a cannon.

It missed me thankfully. 

So i guess that means #1 is TDC now? or compression stroke? not even sure if they are the same thing?

After that i took off the valve cover. Lobe 1 appears straight down.

 

Not sure what all this means or what to do from here but its an update on where i am.

Also i took image of where rotor is now. My finger is area where #1 plug would be with cap on

Edited October 30, 2021 by Wally