October 29, 20213 yr comment_630660 1 minute ago, Wally said: working way thru list stuff here. rotor is quite bit off...should be pointing where green top is. I did remove oil pump and distributor.... does this mean i put it back in wrong? Well, if you have #1 at TDC on the compression stroke, yes, you put the oil pump and distributor back in wrong. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/65981-car-will-not-start/?&page=2#findComment-630660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 29, 20213 yr comment_630661 It looks off, and probably one crankshaft revolution. It has to sync with the oil pump so there is some trial and error involved. You can verify the compression stroke on #1 by taking off the valve cover and checking that the cam lobes are not opening the valves on #1. Get the engine on the #1 compression stroke and rotate the engine, by hand with the plugs out until the timing mark on the damper is between 0 and 10 degrees on the timing tab then set the distributor back in place with the rotor pointing at the # 1 plug wire. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/65981-car-will-not-start/?&page=2#findComment-630661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 29, 20213 yr comment_630662 From the EL section of the FSM: Not having done that before, I would say you're looking for a mark like on the shaft in the view on the left. Or this: Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/65981-car-will-not-start/?&page=2#findComment-630662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 29, 20213 yr comment_630663 Steve is right on the money with the oil pump. I believe the distributor body position may be off. I think the vacuum advance diaphragm should be on the other side. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/65981-car-will-not-start/?&page=2#findComment-630663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 29, 20213 yr comment_630664 Here's an image that @Zed Headposted in a thread a few years ago: And here's one of how the oil pump shaft should look from the top before you install the distributor (courtesy of @siteunseen) Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/65981-car-will-not-start/?&page=2#findComment-630664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 30, 20213 yr comment_630668 There's a way to set the spindle in the pump I learned in the "Monroe how to" book. You go half a bolt counter clockwise when instslling then it falls dead on when you bolt it up. Let me see if I can find that... Here's a thread that might help then the whole Google search below that. Good luck. It's really easy once you wrap your head around the process. https://www.google.com/search?q=tom+monroe's+how+to+rebuild+a+nissan+oil+pump+alignment+siteunseen+classiczcars.com+&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwif7cPQ_vDzAhVTQkIHHS2EA0QQ2-cCegQIABAB&oq=tom+monroe's+how+to+rebuild+a+nissan+oil+pump+alignment+siteunseen+classiczcars.com+&gs_lcp=ChJtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1pbWcQAzoFCCEQqwJKBQg9EgExUM4OWLc3YNhDaABwAHgBgAHnAYgB-guSAQUwLjkuMZgBAKABAcABAQ&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-img&ei=oqB8YZ-UBNOEieoPrYiOoAQ&bih=449&biw=320&client=ms-android-americamovil-us-revc&prmd=svixn Edited October 30, 20213 yr by siteunseen Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/65981-car-will-not-start/?&page=2#findComment-630668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 30, 20213 yr comment_630685 14 hours ago, siteunseen said: There's a way to set the spindle in the pump I learned in the "Monroe how to" book. You go half a bolt counter clockwise when instslling then it falls dead on when you bolt it up. Let me see if I can find that... Here's a thread that might help then the whole Google search below that. Good luck. It's really easy once you wrap your head around the process. https://www.google.com/search?q=tom+monroe's+how+to+rebuild+a+nissan+oil+pump+alignment+siteunseen+classiczcars.com+&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwif7cPQ_vDzAhVTQkIHHS2EA0QQ2-cCegQIABAB&oq=tom+monroe's+how+to+rebuild+a+nissan+oil+pump+alignment+siteunseen+classiczcars.com+&gs_lcp=ChJtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1pbWcQAzoFCCEQqwJKBQg9EgExUM4OWLc3YNhDaABwAHgBgAHnAYgB-guSAQUwLjkuMZgBAKABAcABAQ&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-img&ei=oqB8YZ-UBNOEieoPrYiOoAQ&bih=449&biw=320&client=ms-android-americamovil-us-revc&prmd=svixn I'm glad I tagged you, Cliff. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/65981-car-will-not-start/?&page=2#findComment-630685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 30, 20213 yr Author comment_630689 18 hours ago, KeysZ said: It looks off, and probably one crankshaft revolution. It has to sync with the oil pump so there is some trial and error involved. You can verify the compression stroke on #1 by taking off the valve cover and checking that the cam lobes are not opening the valves on #1. Get the engine on the #1 compression stroke and rotate the engine, by hand with the plugs out until the timing mark on the damper is between 0 and 10 degrees on the timing tab then set the distributor back in place with the rotor pointing at the # 1 plug wire. how can i rotate it by hand? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/65981-car-will-not-start/?&page=2#findComment-630689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 30, 20213 yr Author comment_630691 18 hours ago, SteveJ said: Here's an image that @Zed Headposted in a thread a few years ago: And here's one of how the oil pump shaft should look from the top before you install the distributor (courtesy of @siteunseen) just checked. you are right. this tang isnt aligned like image here. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/65981-car-will-not-start/?&page=2#findComment-630691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 30, 20213 yr Author comment_630692 16 hours ago, siteunseen said: There's a way to set the spindle in the pump I learned in the "Monroe how to" book. You go half a bolt counter clockwise when instslling then it falls dead on when you bolt it up. Let me see if I can find that... Here's a thread that might help then the whole Google search below that. Good luck. It's really easy once you wrap your head around the process. https://www.google.com/search?q=tom+monroe's+how+to+rebuild+a+nissan+oil+pump+alignment+siteunseen+classiczcars.com+&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwif7cPQ_vDzAhVTQkIHHS2EA0QQ2-cCegQIABAB&oq=tom+monroe's+how+to+rebuild+a+nissan+oil+pump+alignment+siteunseen+classiczcars.com+&gs_lcp=ChJtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1pbWcQAzoFCCEQqwJKBQg9EgExUM4OWLc3YNhDaABwAHgBgAHnAYgB-guSAQUwLjkuMZgBAKABAcABAQ&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-img&ei=oqB8YZ-UBNOEieoPrYiOoAQ&bih=449&biw=320&client=ms-android-americamovil-us-revc&prmd=svixn so Madkaw said TDC COMPRESSION STROKE!!!!!! Pull #1 plug and shove a vacuum plug that just fits the hole in there. Turn over motor till that sucker shoots across the room- you found compression stroke . Now line everything up. Do you agree. remove just 1st plug... put in a vacuum plug and turn the key until it blows out? Then its on compression #1 stroke? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/65981-car-will-not-start/?&page=2#findComment-630692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 30, 20213 yr comment_630693 You can remove the valve cover and check the cam lobes also. Or stick a hose in the spark plug hole and blow. If it's on the exhaust stroke it will be easy. Many ways. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/65981-car-will-not-start/?&page=2#findComment-630693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 30, 20213 yr Author comment_630697 I put rubber plug into #1 spark plug and had wife turn key. Holy crap heck....that thing shot out like a cannon. It missed me thankfully. So i guess that means #1 is TDC now? or compression stroke? not even sure if they are the same thing? After that i took off the valve cover. Lobe 1 appears straight down. Not sure what all this means or what to do from here but its an update on where i am. Also i took image of where rotor is now. My finger is area where #1 plug would be with cap on Edited October 30, 20213 yr by Wally Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/65981-car-will-not-start/?&page=2#findComment-630697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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