Racing Harness (Seatbelts)

[That Ozzy Guy]

Originally posted by hmsports

Here's a very good PDF file with complete instructions from G-Force on the correct way to install harnesses:

Harness Installation Instructions

Thanks, some good info there.

Brett, I'm not 100% sure about ADR's but if they are sold at a shop they ought to be. That's just my theory though and it's most likely wrong. I'm making some calls now so hopefully I'll have an answer by tonight. I need them to be ADR aproved as well as the engineer has to pass them. If they are not I'll still use them but leave the lap sash belt as well.

Mick, mine are stamped (hole punch on the tags) August 2003 so they'll be good for another couple of years.

[That Ozzy Guy]

D'oh, they might not be ADR aproved. I just spoke to the guy I bought them from (Rare Spares) and he thinks they are only for the track. He did tell me to speak to my engineer though as he wasn't sure.

[Brett240]

i thought that might be the case. see what your engineer says about the legality of them on the street. If you get pulled over by a cop and he wants to be a ba#$%rd he can defect you for not having ADR approved belts. you can get around this by leaving in your original seat belt as well, check out G260's gallery, geoff has this setup though im not sure if there are any pictures of it in there.

[That Ozzy Guy]

I'm going to the meeting this tomorrow so I'll check out his car there. It's a good idea to leave them in because I have a feeling I'll really get sick of having to strap myself in every time.

I spoke to the RTA tech line just now and they say that it's all up to the engineer and the more important thing is the mounts rather than the belts. Obviously a racing harness will be stronger than the original belt so there shouldn't be a problem with that. The mounts are the x factor here and they have to be done properly.

So, all belts are ADR aproved as long as you can get an engineer that will aprove them.

Guys in NSW, for future reference you can call the RTA techline on 1300 137 302 and they should be able to help you with these sorts of questions rather than us guessing blindly. They've been extremely helpful to me over the last few months.

[That Ozzy Guy]

Brett/guys,

Unfortunately the belts are not approved for road use so they are almost useless to me. I'd keep them but it's alot of money for very little use in the end so I can't justify it.

Where did you see those Sparco belts Brett?

Anyone else know of any approved latch type harnesses? Which country approves them is of little importance. They can be from USA, UK, Japan, Aus etc.

The following will mean nothing to most of you but these are the standards:

FMVSS (USA)

ADR4 (Aus)

JISD640 (Jap)

NZS (NZ)

AS2596

ECER16 (not exactly sure about this one)

VS

Cheers

[Brett240]

bummer about that george,

those SPARCO belts are at Race and Rally near Chullora they are awesome quality and woth it in the end as you can where them all the time, its just the cost thats the clincher, i have some saving to do.

[That Ozzy Guy]

Thanks Brett, I'll check them out this weekend.

[zed240au]

why dont you try revolution race gear george the local guy down here was a great help to us last year when cams started making a song and dance about haqrness's he ended up telling us our existing ones were ok and missed out on a sale because we thought we had to change them they should be able to get you legal harness's cheaper than sparcos

silly thing with our current harness's in the Rx4 is they have no date on them but because they have a E4 on them there ok for as long as we want to use them for the club level we are racing at

Regards Mick

[HKSZ]

George do you have Repco in nsw? I just bought a Securon 3inch 5 way harness with the much better rotary button release. A 50% off sale I got it for $179 + $55 for the crutch belt required for Cams fia approval and dated to the end of 2007.Sale ends 22.6.02. A good buy when I paid $500 last year for a Sabelt with the same date. Also selling 4Point 2inch cams fia belts for $99.

www.repcoshop.com.au ?????

[Marty Rogan]

Hey Rick,

Thanks for the website. I am new to this though. Might pick up a 71 for autocross on Saturday.

What do you recommend (or use) for harnesses. I know that you want something witha crotch strap. Are the G-Force brand units on the website good equpment. What about Sparco or Simpson?

I would also appreciate recommendations on a roll bar and helmet. Best brands (models) and where to get them.

Thanks,

Marty

[aRCH-Z]

Sadly just because it's sold in a shop doesn't mean it's ADR compliant..

I'm going through the process of buying some bucket seats and harnesses and geez.. you'd be suprised how few are legal!

In Autobarn the only ADR compliant seats they sell are the SAAS seats..

as for harnesses.. I dont think you're legally allowed to have them as your only form of 'belt'

It's pretty stupid considering how much can help you in an accident but I'm pretty sure if you dont have your normal belts there as well the cops can defect you.. (not sure if this differs from state to state.. but im pretty dead set thats how it is in melb?)

Kmack,

do you know if 260z have those mounting holes for a harness bar or just the 240z? I've got a strut brace in the back but from what I've heard it's not the best to mount your harnesses to one..

Anyone know a company that makes tan colored harnesses? hehe

[That Ozzy Guy]

arch, as much as a harness can help you in an accident it can also mean your death. If you were to pass out after an accident and a bystander comes to your aid they will know how to undo a normal seatbelt and get you out of a dangerous vehicle that can possibly catch on fire. If you have a harness they might not have a clue how to undo it...

Harnesses are also built with different materials that degrade alot quicker with the help of the sun. That's why they have a shelf life. They are also designed to stretch a certain percentage (15-20 from memory but I'm probably wrong) because they are designed for high speed impacts where normal ADR belts are designed not to stretch as much and for lower speed impacts.

The government is not as selfish and silly as some perceive it to be.