February 26, 20223 yr comment_636460 On 2/26/2022 at 12:19 AM, MH77280Z said: rpms were abrupt Not clear what this means but if the tachometer needle does not seem to match engine RPM correctly that is a sign of an ignition module problem. If banging on the ECU clears up the rough running, that's an ECU problem. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/66314-cold-start-issues-engine-sputter-77-280z-auto/?&page=4#findComment-636460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 26, 20223 yr Author comment_636469 On 2/26/2022 at 12:26 AM, Zed Head said: Kind of sounds like the bad ECU problem, or bad ignition module. Did it smell like raw fuel? Don’t smell any fuel. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/66314-cold-start-issues-engine-sputter-77-280z-auto/?&page=4#findComment-636469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 26, 20223 yr comment_636470 Good luck. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/66314-cold-start-issues-engine-sputter-77-280z-auto/?&page=4#findComment-636470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 26, 20223 yr Author comment_636471 On 2/26/2022 at 12:44 AM, Zed Head said: Not clear what this means but if the tachometer needle does not seem to match engine RPM correctly that is a sign of an ignition module problem. If banging on the ECU clears up the rough running, that's an ECU problem. The RPM needle match the rpm. When I said rpm was abrupt I meant the engine runs with a lot of hesitation during the first minute and if u don’t pump the paddle engine dies/stalls. after about 1 min while engine was still doing this it suddenly clears up and starting idling very smooth. someone suggested build up of fuel pressure and checking FPR etc. I suspect that? What u guys think? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/66314-cold-start-issues-engine-sputter-77-280z-auto/?&page=4#findComment-636471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 26, 20223 yr comment_636472 I think its unlikely to have taken 1 minute for the fuel pressure to have come up. 1 minute of running will get some heat into the valves and inlet, so fuel vaporisation is massively better after a minute. it just sounds like a lack of cold start enrichment to me. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/66314-cold-start-issues-engine-sputter-77-280z-auto/?&page=4#findComment-636472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 26, 20223 yr comment_636474 On 2/26/2022 at 4:46 AM, MH77280Z said: engine runs with a lot of hesitation during the first minute and if u don’t pump the paddle engine dies/stalls. after about 1 min while engine was still doing this it suddenly clears up and starting idling very smooth. Try opening up the idle speed screw and see how it starts. It's the one with the big washer head and spring underneath on the throttle body. If it starts and runs correctly right away but the idle is too high after it warms up then that would be an AAR problem. You've talked about how far open the AAR is but you haven't said that it closes quickly like it should, from the electrical heater inside. It might be that the AAR does not have electrical power and that you've adjusted the idle speed for a warm engine. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/66314-cold-start-issues-engine-sputter-77-280z-auto/?&page=4#findComment-636474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 10, 20223 yr Author comment_637055 Hi, So my ignition issue is fixed (new ignition module). I tested the temp sensor today according to manual at cold. At coolant temp of about 58-59F the resistance across the temp sensor terminals was very slightly above 3K Ohms. This is in exact range mentioned in the manual. How can you test the continuity of the wiring harness for the temp sensor? Also, I have cleaned the bullet connectors and can someone confirm the temp sensor connects to the two GREEN wires through these bullet connectors? (I mean the other two wires are black and both connect to the thermotime switch via bullet connectors). Trying to make sure I have not done it reverse?!!! Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/66314-cold-start-issues-engine-sputter-77-280z-auto/?&page=4#findComment-637055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 10, 20223 yr comment_637056 check it (resistance) at the ECU connector, that will verify the harness connections. IIRC its pin 13 to ground, but check your fsm to be sure. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/66314-cold-start-issues-engine-sputter-77-280z-auto/?&page=4#findComment-637056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 10, 20223 yr comment_637069 I have a memory of posting this before, but I'll do it again anyway. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/66314-cold-start-issues-engine-sputter-77-280z-auto/?&page=4#findComment-637069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 10, 20223 yr comment_637072 It’s a step by step process with the FSM or EFI bible that @Zed Headhas mentioned. You will probably find one or more connections faulty. Check each one and record your findings. Jumping to conclusions will put you in a tail spin. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/66314-cold-start-issues-engine-sputter-77-280z-auto/?&page=4#findComment-637072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 11, 20223 yr Author comment_637085 Thanks guys. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/66314-cold-start-issues-engine-sputter-77-280z-auto/?&page=4#findComment-637085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 11, 20223 yr comment_637087 I’d go with Yarbs advice. Just step your way through this. Could very well be a wiring issue Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/66314-cold-start-issues-engine-sputter-77-280z-auto/?&page=4#findComment-637087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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