September 13, 20222 yr Author comment_645327 Okay job is complete and tested. See link to the video showing both ignition modules working and how I quick swap them. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/66453-77-280z-restoration/?&page=20#findComment-645327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 13, 20222 yr comment_645328 What? You didn't use a 4 pole double throw switch? That would have been even faster to switch over. 😉 Nice wiring. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/66453-77-280z-restoration/?&page=20#findComment-645328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 14, 20222 yr comment_645331 So you have NASA level redundancy. Good thinking!! Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/66453-77-280z-restoration/?&page=20#findComment-645331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 14, 20222 yr comment_645337 12 hours ago, Av8ferg said: the video showing both ignition modules working Yes, they both work, so you're gonna use one and keep the other for reserve.. funny.. (Please make yourself a note for the glovebox what you must do when you need to switch, in a year or 3 you will never remember what to do to switch to the other system ) What's about that starter at 1:45 min. in your video, i have heard a lot of start-ups but never one like this one! Something is not right, grinding gears?? Edited September 14, 20222 yr by dutchzcarguy Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/66453-77-280z-restoration/?&page=20#findComment-645337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 14, 20222 yr comment_645367 12 hours ago, dutchzcarguy said: (Please make yourself a note for the glovebox what you must do when you need to switch, in a year or 3 you will never remember what to do to switch to the other system ) I had a similar thought. Or put some colors/label on the wires and the module pins. I had a module crap out on me in my garage after some engine work. Forgot to put two plug wires back on. So they do fail for various reasons, but so do the originals. I carried a spare module and the tools need to change it in the car. I also had a spare ECU behind the seat. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/66453-77-280z-restoration/?&page=20#findComment-645367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 14, 20222 yr Author comment_645370 That starter is a gear reduction starter from a ZX. It’s brand new. It does sound odd but works perfectly. Spin faster than the stock Z one. This one is made by AC Delco bought it on Rock Auto https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/nissan,1982,280zx,2.8l+l6,1209350,electrical,starter+motor,4152 I won’t forgot how to swap these modules out. It’s dummy proof. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/66453-77-280z-restoration/?&page=20#findComment-645370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 15, 20222 yr comment_645385 10 hours ago, Av8ferg said: That starter is a gear reduction starter from a ZX. I thought about that one, and i took a close look at your rpm-meter when you started but could not see any difference.. now i know how that sounds! 🙂 It's totally different from the normal startersound! Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/66453-77-280z-restoration/?&page=20#findComment-645385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 15, 20222 yr Author comment_645387 Not a bad idea, I’ll keep the extra two wires pieces I built in the glove box and a card with the wire setup drawn out in case I’m drunk and brake down 🤣🤣 Today is test day. I’m going to run the car around and see if I can shake out any more bugs. Yesterday, I re-torqued the head bolts from the rebuild and about half of them did tighten a bit (set 60 ft lbs), adjusted the valve lash and replaced the spark plugs. About 9 valves needed to be adjusted. 7 had too much clearance and 2 not enough but all were within .001 of the cold specs. (my back hurts now from that) The old plugs were fine but my local parts store had the NGK (BPR6ES11) in stock for $3 each so I grabbed them, only needed 4 because I had two remaining when I bought the 8 pack last time. Just doing my part to help the economy. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/66453-77-280z-restoration/?&page=20#findComment-645387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 15, 20222 yr comment_645389 I see a 3 (top) fatty sparkplugs.. indication that one of your carbs is not correct..(to much fuel or not enough air?) Or those 3 cylinders have a problem.. not likely after a revision i think. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/66453-77-280z-restoration/?&page=20#findComment-645389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 15, 20222 yr Author comment_645394 I’m running the stock EFI. Those plugs have been exposed to all sorts of usually activity with the ignition issues and getting the timing and advance all dialed in. Hoping they look better next time. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/66453-77-280z-restoration/?&page=20#findComment-645394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 15, 20222 yr comment_645399 Got some camshaft info that may be of interest. Canceled my order w Motorsport and went straight to Schneider cams for a regrind of the stock cam to their equivalent of Motorsport Stage 3 for fuel injected and rocker arm reconditioning. According to Schneider: - The stock cam is made of better steel then any cam blank you can get in the US - You should check for cracks in the area of the dowel pin. This can be caused by not pulling the cam gear off straight - The stock rocker arms have a wear surface against the cam that is better then most - Keeping the valves properly adjusted is important because excess clearance can cause the arm to wobble and increase wear. The springs on the pivot end are not very effective at preventing this. - Stage 3 is the hottest they recommended for a car that will have AC w a manual transmission. It requires an upgraded fuel injection system (which I’m planning). From another source I was told the difference between an injected and a carburetor cam grind is the need to maintain adequate vacuum w injected. Not sure why this is so. They both restrict air w throttle plates. Maybe somebody has a better explanation. I really appreciate suppliers that are willing to share knowledge. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/66453-77-280z-restoration/?&page=20#findComment-645399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 15, 20222 yr comment_645407 The difference in the injected and carb grinds could be the lobe separation angle. A narrow angle between the lobes contributes to valve overlap. The closer the angle the more it kills vacuum. (Thanks "Engine Masters"). Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/66453-77-280z-restoration/?&page=20#findComment-645407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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