Posted May 17, 20222 yr comment_640487 Hi Guys, i parked the car last night and all seemed to be fine. Today when i tried starting the car the starter did not engage. Mine is 77 Auto and seat belt is engaged and i also have a new ignition mod and like i said it worked last night no issues. I noticed when i took the key out, the rear red lights kept ON. Played with the brake pedal a bit but no effect. I had to disconnect the battery for now. Where should i start? somebody seen this before? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/67485-help-rear-red-lights-on-and-no-power-to-starter/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 17, 20222 yr comment_640488 The switch above the brake pedal is known to break. Two wires and a spring loaded button. https://zcardepot.com/products/brake-light-switch?_pos=1&_sid=e77632f40&_ss=r Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/67485-help-rear-red-lights-on-and-no-power-to-starter/#findComment-640488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 17, 20222 yr Author comment_640489 Do u think it can effect current to starter? I am not able to move the starter at all. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/67485-help-rear-red-lights-on-and-no-power-to-starter/#findComment-640489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 17, 20222 yr comment_640490 Your battery is probably low on charge. Â Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/67485-help-rear-red-lights-on-and-no-power-to-starter/#findComment-640490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 17, 20222 yr Author comment_640499 Upon manually pressing the brake light switch the lights does go off. I do see some plastic on the floor and a hole in the brake padel lever where the switch pressing when u release the pedal - is there a replacement part to fill that hole gap? Also, i did check the battery and it is fully charged and it does not what so ever crank the engine. Like I said i parked the car overnight and it was cranking up fine. Cannot thing of thing that can go wrong overnight. While ignition at start i should see 12v at the solenoid wire signal terminal correct? I can probably start from there. Any other advice? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/67485-help-rear-red-lights-on-and-no-power-to-starter/#findComment-640499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 17, 20222 yr comment_640503 A photo of the gap would be helpful. Yeah you can use a voltmeter on wire that goes to the stator, yellow wire IIRC. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/67485-help-rear-red-lights-on-and-no-power-to-starter/#findComment-640503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 17, 20222 yr comment_640504 This is likely what will fix your brake lights on constantly.  Zcar Depot   Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/67485-help-rear-red-lights-on-and-no-power-to-starter/#findComment-640504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 18, 20222 yr Author comment_640520 Guys, tested the voltage from pin connector on solenoid to battery ground while i tried cranking through ignition and there is no voltage getting there. I unhooked the seat belt and when i move the key to ON i do hear a buzzer and after putting the seat buckle back in the buzzer goes away, so i assume the electrical connector at the seat belt is not a problem. Do u think it is the seat belt relay in the engine compartment? I have also tried tapping the solenoid. TOTALLY LOST GUYS>>> Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/67485-help-rear-red-lights-on-and-no-power-to-starter/#findComment-640520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 18, 20222 yr comment_640521 Might be the ignition switch. Fairly common for the pins in the switch to get loose and lose connection. Or for the mechanicals to wear and the key does not turn the electrical portion of the switch far enough. If you can get to the switch and take it apart you can get the definitive answer. Turn the electrical portion with a screwdriver and see if you get power then.  Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/67485-help-rear-red-lights-on-and-no-power-to-starter/#findComment-640521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 18, 20222 yr Author comment_640522 It’s a new ignition module which I installed 1 month ago. Can it go bad so fast? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/67485-help-rear-red-lights-on-and-no-power-to-starter/#findComment-640522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 18, 20222 yr comment_640534 Did you mean switch, not module?  Can't remember the details of the first problem that caused you to replace the part, whatever it is. Maybe write a short history of problems up to now. There's not much to the system that sends power to the starter solenoid.  Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/67485-help-rear-red-lights-on-and-no-power-to-starter/#findComment-640534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 18, 20222 yr Author comment_640535 I had issues with slow cranking so I changed the Ignition switch and with a new battery things were normal. This was 1 month ago. Couple of days ago when i parked the car next day this started to happen. No power getting to the solenoid at all at this time. I have double checked the battery and it is fine. This happened overnight only. I have ordered a new ignition switch again and it will be here by Fri. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/67485-help-rear-red-lights-on-and-no-power-to-starter/#findComment-640535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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