September 3, 20222 yr Author comment_644858 19 hours ago, jfa.series1 said: The dealer had already installed the BRE 1st generation "Spook" and rear spoiler on my car when I found it on the showroom floor. Years later the Spook was ripped off by some high water but I retrieved it and later gave it a full restoration. @jfa.series1 Never realised the 1st gen Spook was a different shape to the 2nd gen version. Edited September 3, 20222 yr by SpeedRoo Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/67805-bre-improved-240z/?&page=2#findComment-644858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 3, 20222 yr comment_644862 1 hour ago, SpeedRoo said: @jfa.series1 Never realised the 1st gen Spook was a different shape to the 2nd gen version. Go to the BRE site and check out the pics from the 1970 season, you'll find the original style - used only that year. Carl Beck has speculated that mine may be the last one surviving. I reached out to Randy Jaffe while he was building the tribute car and asked if I was at risk of a midnight raid to confiscate my gen-1. He forwarded my pic to Peter Brock who came back with a comment that yes - this was the original, designed to "cool the brakes" per SCCA regs. Everyone else began to copy it and the rules changed so he modified the design to be more efficient. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/67805-bre-improved-240z/?&page=2#findComment-644862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 4, 20222 yr Author comment_644865 4 hours ago, jfa.series1 said: Go to the BRE site and check out the pics from the 1970 season, you'll find the original style - used only that year. Carl Beck has speculated that mine may be the last one surviving. I reached out to Randy Jaffe while he was building the tribute car and asked if I was at risk of a midnight raid to confiscate my gen-1. He forwarded my pic to Peter Brock who came back with a comment that yes - this was the original, designed to "cool the brakes" per SCCA regs. Everyone else began to copy it and the rules changed so he modified the design to be more efficient. @jfa.series1 Thanks for the link, certainly very different on the early race car. I think I prefer the later more efficient kind, looks more integrated into the front bodywork. Interesting that the selling dealer fitted them to your car before sale. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/67805-bre-improved-240z/?&page=2#findComment-644865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 4, 20222 yr Author comment_644866 Speaking of front and rear spoilers, here's a copy of the 1974 magazine test comparing their performance. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/67805-bre-improved-240z/?&page=2#findComment-644866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 4, 20222 yr comment_644868 On 9/2/2022 at 6:47 PM, SteveJ said: I'm thinking probably not. There is still a Ger Brock automotive in Portland. https://gerbrock.com/ They talk about starting out at the address on the cover of that catalog you posted. They don't mention Peter in their history. Peter and Gail moved to Oregon though. They’re in Henderson NV currently but I remember a few years back they talked about living in Oregon. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/67805-bre-improved-240z/?&page=2#findComment-644868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 4, 20222 yr comment_644872 12 hours ago, SpeedRoo said: @jfa.series1 Thanks for the link, certainly very different on the early race car. I think I prefer the later more efficient kind, looks more integrated into the front bodywork. Interesting that the selling dealer fitted them to your car before sale. My dealer was Jack Crew Trophy Datsun of Dallas. He made the decision to pull the car from delivery, pack it with options, and stick it on the showroom floor (sound familiar???). In addtion to the Spook and spoiler, it had front and rear bumper overriders, A/C, tape stripe, console arm rest, and an 8-track unit with cheesy speakers stuck to the rear deck. Topping it all was a set of 10" wide alloys with race rubber mounted. I knew the tires were not street legal so I made a deal to put the stock wheels and tires back on the car and swap out the 8-track for a Datsun AM/FM head. With the big wheels and tires gone, the price became workable with my trade-in and the car became mine. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/67805-bre-improved-240z/?&page=2#findComment-644872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 4, 20222 yr comment_644874 I wonder how many trailer hitches Brock sold (page 19)? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/67805-bre-improved-240z/?&page=2#findComment-644874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 4, 20222 yr comment_644875 16 minutes ago, Jeff Berk said: I wonder how many trailer hitches Brock sold (page 19)? Right!?! "Thank you Mr. Customer. After purchasing all that performance stuff wouldn't you like a trailer hitch too?" Imagine a 3000 pound car with a maxed out 2000 pound load on a trailer. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/67805-bre-improved-240z/?&page=2#findComment-644875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 4, 20222 yr Author comment_644878 There's a chap down in the Bay area that has a trailer hitch on his 240Z (the Green Hornet), has a built up engine and flies around Laguna Seca.....albeit with the trailer unhitced! http://lescollinsracing.com/engine/projects-engine/3435cc-z-racer Edited September 4, 20222 yr by SpeedRoo Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/67805-bre-improved-240z/?&page=2#findComment-644878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 4, 20222 yr Author comment_644879 1 hour ago, jfa.series1 said: My dealer was Jack Crew Trophy Datsun of Dallas. He made the decision to pull the car from delivery, pack it with options, and stick it on the showroom floor (sound familiar???). In addtion to the Spook and spoiler, it had front and rear bumper overriders, A/C, tape stripe, console arm rest, and an 8-track unit with cheesy speakers stuck to the rear deck. Topping it all was a set of 10" wide alloys with race rubber mounted. I knew the tires were not street legal so I made a deal to put the stock wheels and tires back on the car and swap out the 8-track for a Datsun AM/FM head. With the big wheels and tires gone, the price became workable with my trade-in and the car became mine. Any pictures of it when showroom new @jfa.series1 Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/67805-bre-improved-240z/?&page=2#findComment-644879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 4, 20222 yr comment_644883 1 hour ago, SpeedRoo said: Any pictures of it when showroom new @jfa.series1 Nope. Didn't make a habit of carrying around a 35mm back then. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/67805-bre-improved-240z/?&page=2#findComment-644883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 4, 20222 yr comment_644885 2 hours ago, Jeff Berk said: I wonder how many trailer hitches Brock sold (page 19)? More than you’d guess. Back in the days of the Yokohama A001R , or other. Original DOT approved race rubber street tires, lots of guys. Built. Tire trailers to get the tires to the track. Those original DOT race tires would last maybe 5K on the street. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/67805-bre-improved-240z/?&page=2#findComment-644885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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