Hoarding Z Parts

[texasz]

8 hours ago, CanTechZ said:

The Nissan parts book shows the metal one starting at 07/71 and the plastic one ending 06/71. @foosmanwhat is your production date? I do have a spare plastic one from a 12/70 parts car. I have no idea what they are worth but I don't need it as my 7/70 is a Canadian non-emissions car.  Edit, I just noticed you have a 5/71, let me know if you are interested.

 

As is often the case, this information is "loosely" accurate.  I have an 08/70 build that has the plastic evap tank.

 

 

[CanTechZ]

8 hours ago, foosman said:

@CanTechZ I would be interested - pm me and we can discuss details.

I just noticed that there are currently two of these on Ebay.

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/304703085551?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=706-89093-2056-0&mkcid=2&mkscid=101&itemid=304703085551&targetid=1657494600950&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9001461&poi=&campaignid=17288881879&mkgroupid=135489415103&rlsatarget=pla-1657494600950&abcId=9300870&merchantid=589834493&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIp9eE7My7_AIVMRStBh1pYQ6tEAQYASABEgJmI_D_BwE

 

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/295176060437?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=706-89093-2056-0&mkcid=2&mkscid=101&itemid=295176060437&targetid=1656417413710&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9001461&poi=&campaignid=17297476241&mkgroupid=135489415143&rlsatarget=pla-1656417413710&abcId=9300870&merchantid=592332613&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIp9eE7My7_AIVMRStBh1pYQ6tEAQYAiABEgKHfvD_BwE

 

[dutchzcarguy]

My feb 1971 had a plastic one, i kicked it out as it had a crack! I turned it into a euro version tank inlet/airvent. 🙂 

[foosman]

13 hours ago, CanTechZ said:

I just noticed that there are currently two of these on Ebay.

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/304703085551?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=706-89093-2056-0&mkcid=2&mkscid=101&itemid=304703085551&targetid=1657494600950&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9001461&poi=&campaignid=17288881879&mkgroupid=135489415103&rlsatarget=pla-1657494600950&abcId=9300870&merchantid=589834493&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIp9eE7My7_AIVMRStBh1pYQ6tEAQYASABEgJmI_D_BwE

 

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/295176060437?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=706-89093-2056-0&mkcid=2&mkscid=101&itemid=295176060437&targetid=1656417413710&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9001461&poi=&campaignid=17297476241&mkgroupid=135489415143&rlsatarget=pla-1656417413710&abcId=9300870&merchantid=592332613&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIp9eE7My7_AIVMRStBh1pYQ6tEAQYAiABEgKHfvD_BwE

 

Thanks @CanTechZ

[inline6]

On 1/9/2023 at 10:12 AM, foosman said:

Thanks - I’d like to see that.  The fiche shows the original 17350-E4600, which I assume is the plastic tank, and that is replaced by 17350-E4601, which is what I have. 

Ok, getting back to you on my metal tank in my 6/71 240z:

Overall view of "as installed" orientation, front bottom, back bottom:

    

rear mounting tab detail, top front, date stamped on the tank... I don't know how to read that, maybe @KatZ can tell us?

    

 

The mounting location in my 6/1971 car:
    

Edited January 11, 2023 by inline6

[inline6]

On 1/9/2023 at 9:35 AM, CanTechZ said:

The Nissan parts book shows the metal one starting at 07/71 and the plastic one ending 06/71. @foosmanwhat is your production date? I do have a spare plastic one from a 12/70 parts car. I have no idea what they are worth but I don't need it as my 7/70 is a Canadian non-emissions car.  Edit, I just noticed you have a 5/71, let me know if you are interested.

Ha! It would appear that my car, being manufactured in late June of 1971, received a metal tank "pre-maturely"!

[inline6]

Foosman, for what it is worth, fabricating brackets to fit a later metal tank looks easier than fabricating a tank.  Though, if a plastic one in good condition can be found for a reasonable price, then that might be the best route to take.  

I mis-remembered my month of manufacture earlier as 5/71, but it is a 6/71 car.

[HS30-H]

6 hours ago, inline6 said:

date stamped on the tank... I don't know how to read that, maybe @KatZ can tell us?

The '46 6 23' date stamp translates to 23rd June 1971.

'46' = 46th year of Showa = 1971 (First year of Emperor Showa's reign was 1925).

'6' = Month of June.

'23' = 23rd day of the month.

[foosman]

10 hours ago, inline6 said:

Foosman, for what it is worth, fabricating brackets to fit a later metal tank looks easier than fabricating a tank.  Though, if a plastic one in good condition can be found for a reasonable price, then that might be the best route to take.  

I mis-remembered my month of manufacture earlier as 5/71, but it is a 6/71 car.

Yes - thanks @inline6for the pics, seems like adapting from my mounts to the later tank should be pretty easy.  I already have the later tank that a PO hacked in there (although they never secured it - it was just sitting loose behind the interior panel), and reverting to a plastic tank seems like a problem waiting to happen.  Might require going to a "later" interior panel, in case the bulge is different.  I'll have to check my 7/71 which should have the later metal tank (and panel) from the factory, although it has the series 1 diff setup (which also should have ended in 6/71) so who knows.

[dutchzcarguy]

On 1/10/2023 at 10:04 AM, dutchzcarguy said:

My feb 1971 had a plastic one, i kicked it out as it had a crack! I turned it into a euro version tank inlet/airvent. 🙂 

Maybe i was not clear about my solution.. don't know.. but a euro version has NO evap-TANK at all!!  Simply connect the end of tank exit to the filler opening's neck and close all the others i guess.. i did.. don't know..long time ago.. (i do have a usa calif. car 240z)

[kats]

Hi, just a reminder of the difference between the two of interior trim panel. The Blue one is an early type which has a small box for the plastic tank. The black one is a later type which has a larger box for the metal tank. If you put a metal tank into an early car, the trim panel would not fit properly.
 

Kats

Edited January 11, 2023 by kats

[kats]

2 hours ago, dutchzcarguy said:

Maybe i was not clear about my solution.. don't know.. but a euro version has NO evap-TANK at all!!  Simply connect the end of tank exit to the filler opening's neck and close all the others i guess.. i did.. don't know..long time ago.. (i do have a usa calif. car 240z)

Hi dutchzcarguy , my Fairlady 240ZG has the same configuration. The three way connector pipe for the vent tube is also made of plastic and it tends to be brittle as it gets old especially the nipple for the small diameter tube.

The J shape bold vent hose from the tank is connected to this three way connector. And a small diameter tube is climbing upward to the clip on the upper edge of the quarter panel then going down to the rubber grommet to drain outside. 

The hose I showed here is for the US version and it has longer end than the one for the three way connector. 
So, the US version hose 17235-E4600 can be used for the Fairlady Z series also the cars without vapor tank. You just cut a little bit to fit the three way connector.

The orange is 12/1971 US Datsun 240Z,  the maroon is 06/1972 Fairlady 240ZG.

Kats

Edited January 11, 2023 by kats