Hoarding Z Parts

[HS30-H]

1 hour ago, inline6 said:

By the month of manufacture stamped on the door tag, and the VIN number compared with others on the Zhome registry, I figured my car was completed in the back half of the month of June, 1971.  By the date stamp on my tank, I wonder if I can conclude that it was completed on that day.  Seems likely.   

Well, it's a nice thought ('23' being significant to Nissan...) but the tank will have been made in a different Nissan-related facility and then trucked - most likely as part of a batch of similar parts - to the Nissan Shatai factory in Hiratsuka. I very much doubt that would have been possible on the same day that the car was 'finished'.

I'd say a few days, maybe a week or so, more likely? Most of the component parts on these cars usually seem to show production date/QC check stamps within a few weeks to a couple of months before the completion of the car. 

[CanTechZ]

Here is my "hoard" of part number 74932 E4100 scuff plates, that cover the rocker panel vinyl and hold down the weather stripping. There is an interesting evolution of this part. The early version had 5 holes. and later versions have 3 holes. My 7/70 car originally had the 5 holes ones but when I bought my first replacement in 1979 it was the three hole type, as were the two I purchased in 1984. Also it seems that sometime after 1984 Nissan changed to a texture painted finish instead of the original texture vinyl wrapping. I have one of the new painted ones that I purchased in 2015. Below I have included closeup pictures of both to show the difference in finish and texture.

Top side:

 

Bottom side:

 

Close up of finish/texture of the early vinyl wrapped design:

 

Close up of finish/texture of the later texture painted design:

Edited January 16, 2023 by CanTechZ

[bluez]

10 hours ago, inline6 said:

A couple of discontinued, NOS parts in my hoard for the car I am restoring:

    

 

Wow, very nice.. I’ve been looking for them.

[inline6]

A few additions arrived a few days ago and today:

Vacuum advance - my first purchase from an auction in Japan:

  

 

A spare front turn signal lens and a handbrake boot (thanks Ken!)

  

 

And, after a bit of straightening of one of the side brackets and some light glass bead blasting, I was amazed with this bumper I got off of eBay last week.  It has less surface rust on the inside surface than the one that came with my Arizona/Colorado car that was stored for nearly 30 years (I will only be showing the end pieces and not the center bar in pics below):

      

My car's bumper ends are the ones on the outside, the bumper off of eBay are the two on the inside (first pic), plus pictures of NOS ends (on the right in the third pic):

    

Interestingly, the NOS parts have these "half moon cut outs in close proximity with the brackets - I have no idea why:

Edited January 17, 2023 by inline6

[inline6]

10 hours ago, CanTechZ said:

Here is my "hoard" of part number 74932 E4100 scuff plates, that cover the rocker panel vinyl and hold down the weather stripping. There is an interesting evolution of this part. The early version had 5 holes. and later versions have 3 holes. My 7/70 car originally had the 5 holes ones but when I bought my first replacement in 1979 it was the three hole type, as were the two I purchased in 1984. Also it seems that sometime after 1984 Nissan changed to a texture painted finish instead of the original texture vinyl wrapping.

 

Interestingly, I have seen another variant, and it appears to be painted black - note both front and back are black:

 

I am beginning to think that the ones with the beige back side (the one you bought in 2015) have a very thin layer of vinyl and are not painted.  I think it has a vinyl with a different texture than the originals.  I have two of them and was looking at them very closely last week.  Doesn't look like wrinkle paint to me.  I also have two originals that came with my 1971 car.  The backside is bare metal and rusting like yours in the top of your pics.  The vinyl is "non-backed" and very thin - like ".015 at a guess.  It is a different pattern/texture for sure.  

Edited January 17, 2023 by inline6

[kats]

20 hours ago, inline6 said:

Thanks for the information, Alan. 

By the month of manufacture stamped on the door tag, and the VIN number compared with others on the Zhome registry, I figured my car was completed in the back half of the month of June, 1971.  By the date stamp on my tank, I wonder if I can conclude that it was completed on that day.  Seems likely.   

Since that day in 1971, 51 years, 6 months and 8 days have passed.  Hopefully, in another 6 months, I'll have the restoration on this one completed.

Wish I could find a jack and wheel chocks with the correct date stamps.  And for that matter, an original spare tire with a date stamp that is before, but around that, the 26th week of 1971:

 

I hope you will find a good suitable tools and wheels. We see the jack and chocks appeared to have the date stamp quite varied  to the car’s assumed completion date. So as long as the date stamp on the tools show no later than the date of completion, it will be fine.
 

My two 03/1970 cars have different date for the jack and chocks, HLS30-02146 has 2nd September 1969 for the jack , February 1970 for the chocks. 
HLS30-02156 has 5th March 1970 for the jack, March 1970 for the chocks. So we don’t have to be serious about it, especially up to early 1970.

 Me too, I have been dreaming about to know when my cars finished at the factory. What parts would be the last thing to be installed at the assembly lines? Wheels ? What parts would be the latest produced and stamped? 
My guess is the seats would be the one that being hard to be made a lot earlier than the car because otherwise Nissan Shatai had to have really big room to store and need to take care of the seats not to damage before installation. And it seems to me easy to make no need to be made well before the schedule.

I know my guess doesn’t work for finding out my question. But it’s interesting.

Kats

The half moon cut outs of the bumpers are improved feature for wrenching I think. My 06/1972 240ZG doesn’t have the cut outs on the bumpers.

Edited January 17, 2023 by kats

[inline6]

Hi Katz, 

Thanks for the information about jacks and wheel chocks not needing to be as close to month of car manufacture as I was thinking.  I will expand my range to include earlier than before.  I tried finding factory assembly footage on Youtube but didn't find any specifically showing late stages of assembly.  I found a few seconds of footage where the seats were being installed in a 1973 car.  Perhaps there is video footage to be found of assembly of 240z's and 510's in 1970-71?

I am still puzzled by the half moon cuts in the bumpers.  The mounting brackets have captured nuts - welded on that do not rotate.  There there is no need for wrench there and the bolt attaches from inside (other side) of the body panel.  Perhaps the half moon cuts allow a tool for pushing the brackets a little to help align with the hole in the body, so the bolt can fasten?  I do not know.  The brackets are somewhat easy to bend and move a bit.

 

[inline6]

Another arrival today - various parts for repairing or replacing the wiring harness for Datsuns.

 

The contents include most, if not all, of the parts to make a complete 240Z wiring harness, and have many leftover.

 

    

 

    

 

    

 

I also ordered various sizes of shrink wrap, wiring harness tape, and a special crimping tool for the connectors in the kit.  

 

[texasz]

14 hours ago, inline6 said:

Another arrival today - various parts for repairing or replacing the wiring harness for Datsuns.

 

The contents include most, if not all, of the parts to make a complete 240Z wiring harness, and have many leftover.

 

    

 

    

 

    

 

I also ordered various sizes of shrink wrap, wiring harness tape, and a special crimping tool for the connectors in the kit.  

 

Nice!  Got links to the items you purchased?

 

[inline6]

5 hours ago, texasz said:

Nice!  Got links to the items you purchased?

Kit with crimping tool included ($20 savings): http://www.vintageconnections.com/Products/Detail/180
Tape: http://www.vintageconnections.com/Products/Detail/184
and various wrap sizes here: http://www.vintageconnections.com/Products/Sleeving-and-Wrap

[inline6]

@kats: Do you still have this jack?  (QFV) 😍
 

 

[inline6]

New arrival today: