May 6, 20231 yr Author comment_653368 8 minutes ago, SteveJ said: I think if you removed the relay, you only lose the intermittent function, and Park may be affected. I haven't tested to confirm. While it shows 12VDC+ going through the relay, that diagram lies! OK - I'll pay attention to that - it appears that B & E pass through the relay in the diagram, so I'll have to pay attention to the actual connections at the relay. What I have to do is overlay the Nissan diagram with either the Volvo or Fiat ones I made to figure out which connections correlate, since they all use different markings on the column switch & relay terminals Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/68318-75-280z-wiper-motor-conversion-w-variable-intermittent-wipe/?&page=2#findComment-653368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 6, 20231 yr comment_653373 The ground doesn't pass through the relay either. That's another lie by that diagram. Over the years we have noticed several errors in various Z wiring diagrams. @Matthew Abate found many in the 73 diagram when he went to rebuild his harnesses. By the way, Matthew, I'd LOVE to see your car when it's done. Too bad you live in the land of ice & snow. You may want to look for threads on parking the Honda wiper motor because you may need that with the VAG relay. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/68318-75-280z-wiper-motor-conversion-w-variable-intermittent-wipe/?&page=2#findComment-653373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 7, 20231 yr Author comment_653400 Got the bracket & motor back in the cowl, and rewired for the Honda Motor. I found that one hand can be fit behind the bracket from the right side to get the linkage arm nut back on the wiper motor. I decided to cut off the Datsun connector as those small pins just seem iffy for the load of the wiper motor, given their antiquity. I added lengths of same color wire to extend the stock harness through the cowl, used a Volvo firewall grommet, and then added the Honda (Yazaki 58XS) connector and female pins. BLK, BLU-R, Y,Y-BLK, BLU-Y. Y-G is unused. Solder joints are a bad idea - so I bought a large number of crimp splices some time back. Color-keyed wiring came from my old 80's X1/9 parts car. I removed the entire dash harness before junking it. double shrink wrapped I noticed that there is extra weather-strip glue under the seal - I'll have to get that off I attached the wires without the harness first, to just check the mapping from Datsun to Honda indicated in the earlier post The wipers worked as they should - interval, low and high, parks as it should, so I put the wires into the connector Moved harness routing over to the left & clipped it to the cowl lip Put some butyl over the harness feed throughs, since I don't have the plastic sheath for the whole affair arms & new 18" blades installed checked the washer nozzle adjustment Edited May 7, 20231 yr by HusseinHolland Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/68318-75-280z-wiper-motor-conversion-w-variable-intermittent-wipe/?&page=2#findComment-653400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 7, 20231 yr comment_653414 I was able to confirm yesterday that the intermittent relay does handle the park function for the wipers. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/68318-75-280z-wiper-motor-conversion-w-variable-intermittent-wipe/?&page=2#findComment-653414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 7, 20231 yr Author comment_653415 5 minutes ago, SteveJ said: I was able to confirm yesterday that the intermittent relay does handle the park function for the wipers. Thanks Steve The amplifier relay or the interval relay? #9 or #1 in the relay panel schematic? Edited May 7, 20231 yr by HusseinHolland add reference Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/68318-75-280z-wiper-motor-conversion-w-variable-intermittent-wipe/?&page=2#findComment-653415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 7, 20231 yr comment_653416 Same thing Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/68318-75-280z-wiper-motor-conversion-w-variable-intermittent-wipe/?&page=2#findComment-653416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 8, 20231 yr Author comment_653443 On 5/7/2023 at 9:13 AM, SteveJ said: Same thing I'm confused as the diagrams indicate two components with different pin outs for the intermittent amplifier and interval or intermittent relay in the diagrams I posted above. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/68318-75-280z-wiper-motor-conversion-w-variable-intermittent-wipe/?&page=2#findComment-653443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 8, 20231 yr comment_653448 1 hour ago, HusseinHolland said: I'm confused as the diagrams indicate two components with different pin outs for the intermittent amplifier and interval or intermittent relay in the diagrams I posted above. Could you put the two diagrams into a new reply? I'm not seeing what you're seeing. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/68318-75-280z-wiper-motor-conversion-w-variable-intermittent-wipe/?&page=2#findComment-653448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 8, 20231 yr Author comment_653453 3 hours ago, SteveJ said: Could you put the two diagrams into a new reply? I'm not seeing what you're seeing. Thanks Steve Intermittent Amp above - 7 wires Interval relay, 10 wires Locations of the 2 relays Edited May 8, 20231 yr by HusseinHolland Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/68318-75-280z-wiper-motor-conversion-w-variable-intermittent-wipe/?&page=2#findComment-653453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 9, 20231 yr comment_653454 They change the names but #9, Intermittent wiper relay, and #1, Interval wiper amplifier, are one and the same. I hope this clears up your confusion. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/68318-75-280z-wiper-motor-conversion-w-variable-intermittent-wipe/?&page=2#findComment-653454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 9, 20231 yr comment_653456 Just for reference, the part number is 28820-N3300. Part #44 here: https://www.carpartsmanual.com/datsun/Z-1969-1978/electrical/electric-unit-switch/section-1/240z-260z Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/68318-75-280z-wiper-motor-conversion-w-variable-intermittent-wipe/?&page=2#findComment-653456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 9, 20231 yr Author comment_653458 39 minutes ago, SteveJ said: They change the names but #9, Intermittent wiper relay, and #1, Interval wiper amplifier, are one and the same. I hope this clears up your confusion. Thanks for that, Steve. Dang. Why the heck would they label the same item as two components and number them differently? Just to fk with ppl??? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/68318-75-280z-wiper-motor-conversion-w-variable-intermittent-wipe/?&page=2#findComment-653458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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