Posted July 21, 20231 yr comment_655285 Ok, I'm having a bad week with nice stock L24 with SU's. Runs fantastic until you get over 4-4.5K RPM, then it leans out and misfires. Facts and Observations SM needles (been trying several others....) Four screw early carbs. Fresh and minty. New AEM AFR gauge in the exhaust. Never leave home without it. AFR's 13-14 around town below 4K RPM, car pulls like crazy super smooth 800 RPM smooth idle, but crawls up to 15-16.5 or higher and misfires when you get over 4K. Doesn't fall on its face, just gets rough running and power falls off and has trouble getting to 6k RPM. Fuel deliverability confirmed. NOS stock pump and then with an NOS electric pump (mechanical out of the circuit), both behave the same way. Both produce buckets full of fuel when I free flow them into, well, a bucket. Float level confirmed. Was a tad low, now perfect. No change in behavior before or after. yes there is oil in the domes. If I pull the chokes on and get the jet tubes down 1/8 then it runs better and the AFR's stay near 15, but turning the mix screws down to 5 or 6 turns to get that same result makes the idle-4K range pig rich and awful. No surprise there. Not a solution. Tried another set of SM needles, (these dang things are typically too rich on a stock L24!!! Not this time) same thing. Valve adjust and vacuum are normal. NGK BPR^ES usual at 0.036. All 6 look identical and lean-ish after a few hard pulls. I'm about to start sanding down the lower half of a set of SM needles to try to get it richer up top. Not easy to tell where to start sanding. Suggestions? What am I missing?!?!?!?!? Edited July 21, 20231 yr by zKars Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/68460-lean-times-and-not-just-because-of-high-prices-and-low-wages/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
July 21, 20231 yr Author comment_655287 Hmmmmm. I wonder if a loose and floppy distributor cap could have anything to do with it. Can a spark mis-fire read lean just like lean can cause a mis-fire? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/68460-lean-times-and-not-just-because-of-high-prices-and-low-wages/#findComment-655287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
July 21, 20231 yr Author Popular Post comment_655290 There. See? It was the loose dizzy cap. Guess it went wonky (sorry for the technical term) above 4k. I knew if I asked you guys would help me solve it! Even if only in spirit..... So what did we learn today? -Misfires can cause a lean condition as read on the AFR gauge, just like the reverse. -Change a bunch of stuff and get the same result? You are changing the wrong stuff. -Tunnel vision is blinding. Edited July 21, 20231 yr by zKars Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/68460-lean-times-and-not-just-because-of-high-prices-and-low-wages/#findComment-655290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
July 21, 20231 yr comment_655292 Glad you found it! Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/68460-lean-times-and-not-just-because-of-high-prices-and-low-wages/#findComment-655292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
July 21, 20231 yr Popular Post comment_655294 Well, that's what I get for not suggesting looking at your ignition after I read your post. I could have looked like a stud...well, yeah, that is going too far. 😞 Of course for a sparky type, we usually suspect electrical first. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/68460-lean-times-and-not-just-because-of-high-prices-and-low-wages/#findComment-655294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
July 22, 20231 yr comment_655308 6 hours ago, zKars said: So what did we learn today? -Misfires can cause a lean condition as read on the AFR gauge, just like the reverse. -Change a bunch of stuff and get the same result? You are changing the wrong stuff. -Tunnel vision is blinding. Love the mission summary. I've heard it put this way... Misfires leave oxygen in the exhaust stream. AFR pics that up and interprets it as "lean". Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/68460-lean-times-and-not-just-because-of-high-prices-and-low-wages/#findComment-655308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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