Posted February 6, 20241 yr comment_661785 Who here knows the proper title given to the circuit board that s30 ZCAR headlight and turn signal switches use in their switches? This would be someone with a command of ZCAR esoterica and sadly, most of those guys are passing on. I miss them. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/68809-circuit-board/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 6, 20241 yr Popular Post comment_661787 I'm not dead, yet. But, no, I don't know the specific term. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/68809-circuit-board/#findComment-661787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 6, 20241 yr comment_661788 I always used blinker switch assembly. I've always like this write-up: https://woodworkerb.com/home/datsun-240z-rebuild/blinker-detail/ Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/68809-circuit-board/#findComment-661788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 6, 20241 yr comment_661789 I believe the board material is called phenolic. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/68809-circuit-board/#findComment-661789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 7, 20241 yr Author comment_661792 Yes, "phenolic" is in the title but there is a lot more included in the correct product name because there are numerous different products that have "phenolic" in the material name. My current plastic choice is Torlon 5030 to replace primarily the circuit board in the hi-lo beam switch but it would be nice to maybe have the same material as OEM. On the other hand, that stuff was kind of too fragile to use as the hi- lo circuit board and 50 years on they are mostly broken or break when attempting removal from the switch housing. Thanks Jim Edited February 7, 20241 yr by dhp123166 Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/68809-circuit-board/#findComment-661792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 7, 20241 yr Popular Post comment_661810 A little web digging turned up some search terms that might be helpful. FR-2 (predecessor to what we use today which I believe is FR-4) And a couple brand names: Pertinax Paxolin Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/68809-circuit-board/#findComment-661810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 7, 20241 yr Author comment_661813 You are a better web digger than I ! I was shooting blanks everywhere I turned. Thank you. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/68809-circuit-board/#findComment-661813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 8, 20241 yr comment_661848 Glad to help. But out of curiosity... I believe more modern materials are better in pretty much every way than that old brown stuff. Why would you not use current age glass reinforced board material? I mean, I get originality, but in an area like that where it is completely invisible it seems unnecessary. You can get the new glass FR-4 in black color solder mask. Would that be "good enough"? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/68809-circuit-board/#findComment-661848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 8, 20241 yr comment_661851 Just for context, here's an image of the board. If you're thinking mass production then something easily machinable would be good. For one time, you might dull some tools cutting a glass-reinforced material. Stole it from here... Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/68809-circuit-board/#findComment-661851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 9, 20241 yr comment_661890 On 2/6/2024 at 9:30 PM, dhp123166 said: the proper title given to the circuit board that s30 ZCAR headlight and turn signal switches use in their switches? For as far i know.. we (Dutchies) call it pertinax Pertinax, also called FR-2 or hard paper, is an electrical insulating material consisting of layers of paper impregnated with a phenol - formaldehyde - synthetic resin. Pertinax is electrically insulating and has a high breakdown voltage. The thermoset was developed during the First World War. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/68809-circuit-board/#findComment-661890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 9, 20241 yr comment_661899 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pertinax Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/68809-circuit-board/#findComment-661899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 9, 20241 yr comment_661900 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FR-2 Looks like good stuff. Probably easy to work with. Must be an analog here in the states somewhere. https://gie-tec.de/product/phenolic-resin-paper-laminate-fr2/?lang=en Phenolic resin paper Laminate FR2 Halogen-free laminates (1,5mm) out of phenolic resin paper High dielectric strength, excellent insulator in high-voltage technology Very good processing, high tool life 35µm copper cladding (copper foil, single side) Optionally uncoated or with foto positive coating of the copper foil High quality positive resist with short process times Produces according: – UL: E103670 – VDE: Reg. Nr. 4158 – BSI: 6741 Option: Phenolic resin paper/ Pertinax without copper lamination, Thickness 1,0mm or 2,0mm Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/68809-circuit-board/#findComment-661900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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