Finally found a 69 240z, #51 Time to finish a 30 year multiple owner restoration.

[kats]

On 5/22/2024 at 10:33 PM, Gav240z said:

Since we're talking about #51 chassis sequence on all the variants. It might be worth sharing the fact that PS30 00052 is out there still and apparently in North America.

https://jdmlegends.com/collections/vehicles/products/1970-fairlady-z-432

I've actually had the owner reach out to me in search of some parts.

Hi Gavin, I probably know the owner. We had a good conversation at ZCON last year.
He seems to have some good friends in Japan. I am interested in seeing the car gets back on the road.

Kats

[kats]

58 minutes ago, HS30-H said:

The mount for the 432 airbox is on the wrong side (factory mistake?), but the holes for the H-H 'Traction Hook' are correct.

N3200 ink stamp part number? I think it was a generic one-size-fits-all interim service part just before the version with the aircon condenser-related horn mounts. I used one for my white H-H and I had to cut the 432 airbox mount off (although it was on the correct side). Worked OK.

I think you'd struggle to find an NOS E4200 or E4201 version. 

Hi Alan, the wrong side Z432 mount is what we have been waiting for! 
 

You posted a picture for a several years ago, a ‘Fairlady 260Z-E’. It has a mirror image Z432 air filter box next to the left side of the head light. 

I am so excited about seeing this front center rail, this proves Nissan was about to sell Fairlady 260Z-E not just making a prototype but preparing for full production for the coming new model for 1974. 
And also I have seen a Z432 wrong side air box on Yahoo Japan auction some years ago. I just didn’t get it what it is. 
But yes it existed! 
 

Kats

[kats]

On 4/26/2024 at 4:36 AM, dspillman said:

It’s all good, I am reading through and trying to learn as well, soak in what I can, I’m hoping to not have to pull apart the flexiflier joint, but will if needed.   The conversation is directly related to this build and others.

 

Hi, we will have some new point of view about the seam for the C-pillar joint. 
Mr.Miyazaki told me about interesting story about the issue of cracking around the C-pillar. It is a new thing for me, I have never heard of it. 
 

I will report it soon.

Kats

[kats]

On 5/23/2024 at 8:32 AM, HS30-H said:

Not E4100?

In the first Japanese market parts manual (pub. C-137) they list 55450-E4100 first for the S and D models, superseded by the E4101 at S30-00976. That would be around January 1970?

S20-engined models first got the E4200, which was superseded with the E4201 at PS30-00103.

I would imagine both supersessions were likely to be NVH-related improvements?

I’m feeling the same Alan.

I have been  curious about the same thing happened to other parts like the choke and throttle cables, export emblems ‘chrome solid back side Z’ etc.

I can’t remember exactly but even some parts started at E4101 or 4601 from the beginning of the production. 
Apparently those things were well before the test ride in US & Canada from October to December 1969. 
 

Body styling had finished in 1968, but development chassis and all the other things would have still been in progress in Japan? 
 

Kats

[Gav240z]

6 hours ago, dspillman said:

Would these later peices cause deductions in a judged event?

I'm in 2 minds about this. I have a NOS rear 1/4 panel.

Part No. 78100-E4600

https://goo.gl/photos/L4u3rC8JCNevTX9y8

It has the rear 1/4 marker lights holes, but HS30s sold in Australia didn't get those. So I was going to have it welded up.

However I was also thinking of repairing the existing 1/4 panel which has a light altercation at some point and is currently loaded with bog. I'm not good enough to file finish it myself, but I'm sure my panel beating friend is. It will likely cost more than replacing it with the NOS panel I have though!

So I'm not sure where to draw the line on this stuff, but my pragmatic brain says it's better to get them back on the road and restored.

A while ago I had a bonnet repaired and it probably cost me double the price of buying a reproduction part (which were not freely available at the time I had mine repaired)..

I do like the idea of keeping as much of the original car as possible. And likely I'd be the only 1 that would know how much would be replaced.

But thankfully I don't yet have to make these decisions on my own project(s). So for now I'm not gonna stress too much about it.

 

 

 

[HS30-H]

8 hours ago, kats said:

Hi Alan, the wrong side Z432 mount is what we have been waiting for! 
 

You posted a picture for a several years ago, a ‘Fairlady 260Z-E’. It has a mirror image Z432 air filter box next to the left side of the head light. 

I am so excited about seeing this front center rail, this proves Nissan was about to sell Fairlady 260Z-E not just making a prototype but preparing for full production for the coming new model for 1974. 
And also I have seen a Z432 wrong side air box on Yahoo Japan auction some years ago. I just didn’t get it what it is. 
But yes it existed! 
 

Kats

Well your memory is obviously much better than mine Kats, as I had completely forgotten about that. 

So the N3200 was part of the aborted Fairlady 260Z-E project...

...and the airbox mount is correct. Fascinating to think that some of the specific parts made it into Nissan's spare parts system.

As mentioned, my white 240ZG project car needed a radiator support crossmember (due to old damage) and the only panel I could find at the time was the same 74820-N3200 as David has. I just removed the unneeded additions. Think it worked OK. 

David, can you do something like this for your N3200?

   

[dspillman]

3 hours ago, HS30-H said:

“ Well your memory is obviously much better than mine Kats.

So the N3200 was part of the aborted Fairlady 260Z-E project...

I could find at the time was the same 74820-N3200 as David has. I just removed the unneeded additions. Think it worked OK. 

David, can you do something like this for your N3200? ”

       
         It would be possible,but the “tow bracket holes” would bother me….Oct 69 car with obvious Oct 71 peices, but in all likelihood will have many other items/details not 100% dated correct….I maybe over thinking this…….  Correct seatbelts, tail lights, seat covers can be easily “fixed” with correct over time…. That front crossmember isn’t as easily swapped out in the future.

      But that all being said…..I’d bet less then 5% of z guys in the “states” would know what purpose those two holes were used for from 10/71-10/72

[dspillman]

It would be possible,but the “tow bracket holes” would bother me….Oct 69 car with obvious Oct 71 peices, but in all likelihood will have many other items/details not 100% dated correct….I maybe over thinking this…….  Correct seatbelts, tail lights, seat covers can be easily “fixed” with correct over time…. That front crossmember isn’t as easily swapped out in the future.

      But that all being said…..I’d bet less then 5% of z guys in the “states” would know what purpose those two holes were used for from 10/71-10/72

[Patcon]

Holes can be welded up...

[HS30-H]

12 minutes ago, Patcon said:

Holes can be welded up...

Indeed. And after dressing and painting nobody would know they were ever there.

[dspillman]

      If 3496 didn’t have these blame camber plates, I could put the whole front clip on…

[Patcon]

It would be pretty easy to make those shock towers stock again. Provided you know how to MIG. Just make sure you get the front end on level and square. A frame rack would be best for that