Posted September 26, 2024Sep 26 comment_669603 Got a Duralast M51837 brake master cylinder off a buddy of mine. It's supposedly a 15/16. When I measured the bore it is a little over 1". Would I be able to use this paired with a 280zx brake booster or is 1" too big? Edited September 26, 2024Sep 26 by Z2 D2 Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/69114-duralast-brake-master-cylinder/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 26, 2024Sep 26 comment_669604 Autozone says it's right for some ZX's. https://www.autozone.com/brakes-and-traction-control/master-cylinder-brake-system/p/remanufactured-brake-master-cylinder-m51837/719096_0_0 Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/69114-duralast-brake-master-cylinder/#findComment-669604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 26, 2024Sep 26 comment_669631 9 hours ago, Z2 D2 said: Got a Duralast M51837 brake master cylinder off a buddy of mine. It's supposedly a 15/16. When I measured the bore it is a little over 1". The master cylinders are usually bored out larger in the area where the retaining clip goes. So if you are measuring the bore with all the guts installed, It's likely that you aren't measuring the actual working diameter of the cylinder. You are probably just measuring the diameter where the lead-in and retainer are located. My guess (from my chair) is that the bore down deeper in the cylinder is smaller than what you are measuring out at the end where you have the caliper. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/69114-duralast-brake-master-cylinder/#findComment-669631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 26, 2024Sep 26 Author comment_669635 1 hour ago, Captain Obvious said: The master cylinders are usually bored out larger in the area where the retaining clip goes. So if you are measuring the bore with all the guts installed, It's likely that you aren't measuring the actual working diameter of the cylinder. You are probably just measuring the diameter where the lead-in and retainer are located. My guess (from my chair) is that the bore down deeper in the cylinder is smaller than what you are measuring out at the end where you have the caliper. It does taper down into a smaller hole. Would the measurement be from the top of the taper or the bottom? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/69114-duralast-brake-master-cylinder/#findComment-669635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 26, 2024Sep 26 comment_669638 The measurement should be at the narrowest part of the taper. In order to get a good reading, you might have to push the brake piston in a little bit to expose the surface on which to put the calipers. Or you might be able to just catch a little bit of the bore at the bottom of the taper even without pushing the piston in. And if you are just "reality checking" to make sure you have the right master cylinder for your car, that might be accurate enough. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/69114-duralast-brake-master-cylinder/#findComment-669638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 26, 2024Sep 26 comment_669639 And another complication will be that the retaining ring clip will be in the way of taking a measurement. I'm assuming that the master doesn't have the size cast into the outside of the body? Cause if it did, you wouldn't have to go through any of this? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/69114-duralast-brake-master-cylinder/#findComment-669639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 26, 2024Sep 26 comment_669640 The rod from the booster fits in to the spherical pocket. The internal bore doesn't matter for connection to the booster. I'd worry more about getting the booster rod depth correctly set. That's where problems happen. If the internal bore has been enlarged it would affect pedal stroke slightly (more volume would give a shorter stroke) but, as CO points out, it's probably correct down where the piston is. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/69114-duralast-brake-master-cylinder/#findComment-669640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 26, 2024Sep 26 comment_669643 14 hours ago, Z2 D2 said: Would I be able to use this paired with a 280zx brake booster p.s. it should work. Probably best to match the year of booster. Not clear what changed for 82 and 83 280ZX's, which are left out of the fit list. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/69114-duralast-brake-master-cylinder/#findComment-669643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 27, 2024Sep 27 comment_669655 1979,80,and 81 have verticle mounting. 82,83 horizontal. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/69114-duralast-brake-master-cylinder/#findComment-669655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 28, 2024Sep 28 Author comment_669676 On 9/26/2024 at 8:03 AM, Captain Obvious said: And another complication will be that the retaining ring clip will be in the way of taking a measurement. I'm assuming that the master doesn't have the size cast into the outside of the body? Cause if it did, you wouldn't have to go through any of this? Wish it was that easy. There is a casting it just says 01 though. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/69114-duralast-brake-master-cylinder/#findComment-669676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 28, 2024Sep 28 comment_669677 Yeah, I had little doubt it wasn't that easy. But I have to ask. Haha!! If you have one of these (commonly known as a layout caliper), you could push the piston in and reach behind the retaining ring to set this thing for the inside diameter. Then take it out and use your caliper to measure the jaw width. If you don't have a layout caliper and are really really desperate, you could use a piece of coat hanger bent into a "U" shape. If you do it right, you should be able to get a reality check quality measurement. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/69114-duralast-brake-master-cylinder/#findComment-669677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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