HLS 30 hub caps

[Diseazd]

On 11/23/2024 at 3:04 PM, Richard McDonel said:

Thanks for all the confusion guys!

Odd that they would change the hub caps in concert with the gearbox rather than at a specific production date, model year or VIN.   I guess I'll just take a chance and go with Z hub caps (sexier than the Ds).  Don't imagine it would make or break my chances if they ever featured 240s at Pebble Beach!

It’s not just the gear box that determines the hubcap, it’s all of the other items in a supposed Series 1 or transition to Series 2 Z IMO. Most Series 1 cars had the ashtrays and cig lighters forward of the gear shift, they had angular half shafts and early trannys. The very early cars had 240Z on the roof quarters and vents in the tailgate. Later so called transition Z’s had no vents in the tailgate and picked those vents up on the roof quarters, but all other early features mentioned above stayed (early tranny, ash tray location, angular half shafts, cig lighter etc.) I assume all early Z’s and transition Series 1 Z’s had D hubcaps, but just my guess……Carl Beck @Carl Beckmay be able to add info or @kats @jfa.series1 @HS30-H I would be very interested to know if the transition Z’s (later 71) were considered Series 1 or Series 2? I assume that they wore D hubcaps if they had the early tranny, console and other early items that they came with D caps…….but are the transition Z’s 1’s or 2’s? Anyone?

Edited 23 hours ago by Diseazd

[jfa.series1]

7 hours ago, Diseazd said:

It’s not just the gear box that determines the hubcap, it’s all of the other items in a supposed Series 1 or transition to Series 2 Z IMO. Most Series 1 cars had the ashtrays and cig lighters forward of the gear shift, they had angular half shafts and early trannys. The very early cars had 240Z on the roof quarters and vents in the tailgate. Later so called transition Z’s had no vents in the tailgate and picked those vents up on the roof quarters, but all other early features mentioned above stayed (early tranny, ash tray location, angular half shafts, cig lighter etc.) I assume all early Z’s and transition Series 1 Z’s had D hubcaps, but just my guess……Carl Beck @Carl Beckmay be able to add info or @kats @jfa.series1 @HS30-H I would be very interested to know if the transition Z’s (later 71) were considered Series 1 or Series 2? I assume that they wore D hubcaps if they had the early tranny, console and other early items that they came with D caps…….but are the transition Z’s 1’s or 2’s? Anyone?

I'm a bit embarassed to be listed in the same sentence as Carl, Kats, and Allen - all much more knowledgeable in the details of our cars than I. I was under the impression that all cars through the end of the '71 model year had "D" hub caps and that the style and center ornament changed with the '72 models.

On a bit of a tangent, we find ourselves in another discussion of Series 1 vs. Series 2, ...etc. It has been pointed out many times that Nissan never used those terms and that it is merely an invention of the car owners and enthusiasts (I plead gulty!). We often get into very active (heated?) discussions about this naming convention and I've been giving some thought to a possible alternative. We know that the so-called Series 1 cars were produced into late January 1971 and all had the type "A" (monkey motion) transmission among other unique styling attributes. Beginning with VIN HLS30-21001 in February the cars were fitted with the type "B" transmission with required console design changes as well as other changes in design features. So... it might be more accurate to replace the Series 1 or Series 2 references with "Type A" and "Type B" designations. Thoughts?

[Mark Maras]

 I too am guilty of using Series 1 &2. but using Type A &B is going to launch the same discussion by the same people because Nissan didn't use that designation either. I'll continue to use the Series designation because it is descriptive enough for U.S. Infidels.

[CanTechZ]

Guilty here of using "series" as well,  although I have been trying not to. I prefer 1971 early and 1971 late.