texasz Posted June 27, 2003 Share #25 Posted June 27, 2003 There still has been no price posted. Ppppplllllleeeeaaassssseeeee..............I just want to know how far out of my league this little gem is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrOxLaMuS© Posted June 27, 2003 Share #26 Posted June 27, 2003 RB26DETT from an R33 GTR.... which normally has an 6-speed AWD tranny.. so he is using an RWD 5-speed tranny from an RB25DET Nissan Skyline GTR R33 Motor swap for sale. The motor swap is a 100% complete and comes with a RWD 5-speed Prices for a front clip.. complete with everything for an RB26DETT can be found for about $5,000 to $6,000 and an RB20DET can be found for about $2,000 to $3,000 for one in great condition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SER240Z Posted June 27, 2003 Share #27 Posted June 27, 2003 Originally posted by PrOxLaMuS© NO!!!! Skyline's are Right Hand Drive... but that doesn't get in the way.. wtf. Skylines are illegal in the U.S. because of emissions, the speedometer reading KmPH instead of MPH and because of crash ratings... that's it... If Nissan were to bring a car into the US, do you really think that they would leave it right hand drive? Have you ever seen a manufacturer leave a car right hand drive when they start building it for the US? Then wouldn't you think that they would do it for a Skyline too? Which would create a problem it the turbos are on the left-side. Think about it. Not everyone drives on the right side of the car, and we were talking about US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrOxLaMuS© Posted June 27, 2003 Share #28 Posted June 27, 2003 Currently there are 66 registered Skylines in the U.S.A. with all RHD, none of them converted. it is not illegal to drive an RHD car in the United States and you do not need a special license. Also the only legal place to import an Skyline into the U.S.A is called Motorex. (www.motorex.net) And they leave it RHD....i even saw an RHD jeep yesterday If.... and only if... they converted a Skyline to LHD there would be difficulties with the turbo's yes.... However, since they will begin selling the newer R35 Skyline in the U.S.A. they will be LHD and have completly different layouts in the chassis and engine. I am speaking of R32, R33, and R34 Nissan Skylines, which they will probably never sell at every other dealership, and will be nearly half the car's value or more to make it LHD. If you were to put in an RB26DETT into an 240Z or 260Z or 280Z, it is not difficult to install.http://hybridz.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=15544 Credit to "stony"How to swap an rb engine into a z First you need to figure out what engine and performance you want… The rb-20 motor is a 2 liter turbo or N/A motor both are considerably stronger then the L motor The rb-25 is basically the same as the 2.l but has more displacement and can be modded to handle more HP in its stock internal form. A friend of mine took a stock N/A rb25, threw a turbo on it and ran the hell out of it for a year and a half at very high boost levels before he put a hole in a piston!!!! Car dyno’d at 430 RWHP on a chassis dyno The rb-26 DETT comes twin turbo only… it is a detuned Japan touring car motor. With simple upgrade like a chip , intake, and exhaust you can be well over 300hp. The bottom end is built to with stand 600hp before needing upgrade forged pistons and rods. This motor is considerably different then the 2.0 and 2.5. The only thing that is swappable between the 2.5 and 2.6 is the block and that has to be bored and some other mods done to fit the head. If possible you want to stick with the 2.6 block especially if your going to build it up for a lot of power… the 2.6 block is a lot stronger Ill start with the rb-26 swap as this is what I did. I purchased the majority of the parts from one shop on Okinawa (HAAS) and got a pretty good deal on everything. Here’s what I got Rb-26dett, trust FMIC, r-33 GTS-T 5 speed tranny, r-200 LSD, drive shaft that I needed, and a bunch of other stuff I ended up not using. 3500.00 Things I didn’t use… stock computer, stock wire harness, stock oil pan First thing I did was remove the GTR oil pan , installed the pickup / oil pan from the z-31. Then I installed the z-31 motor mounts. I installed the motor with tranny bolted up. We then took the stock mount from the L tranny cut it up and welding it back together. Then cut and shaped the chassis part of the mounts and bolted everything together. Once everything was in place where I wanted it we tacked it in, then removed everything and welded it all up. It wasn’t till later that we figured out the drive shaft would fit without cutting it ;> I was told this but had never seen it done so I wasn’t sure. From this point it was a matter of fabricating all the stuff to make the engine work. Other parts I bought from different sources… Exhaust (Kakimoto) I ordered this thru Matt at motorworx on Okinawa. http://www.motorworx.tv/ I bought the GTR down pipe from the kinser auto hobby shop USMC then had it modified by matt to fit the 260z install. basically cut it in half then welded a couple of bends in it to fit Fuel pump I bought off of ebay … bosche 600hp injection pump. The oil pan and sump I got out of a Japan spec Z-31 rb20det 300zx in a junk yard. the front of the oil pan had to be cut out and lowered to clear the bearing retainers in the 2.6. The block has a spot for a rear pickup but it is not drilled out so I had to use the front port on the 2.6. This meant I had to make a custom oil pickup that went from the front of the motor to the rear. If you use the rb-25 block this is not necessary, in fact everything from the Z-31 is bolt in!!!! I purchased the SDS EMS thru matt at motorworx…. I can not say enough about matt… he is awesome and very meticulous… if he wouldn’t do it on his own car he wont tell you or do it to your car Labor I did pretty much all the manual labor like installing the motor, tranny, diff, and a bunch of other stuff associated with a body restoration;> Matt at Motorworx did all the welding on my car…to include the exhaust, down pipe, intercooler in and out mods, and piping He modified my fuel tank pickup to a –8 for better fuel delivery. He also did the SDS install, and setup. Which without changing anything the car ran a best 11.138 @ 121!!!!!! Ok to summarize… with all the parts above everything bolts in You’ll need to make tranny mounts, and all the associated welding for the exhaust and intercooler piping. From there it just like any other swap. The motor sits a little fwd with the z-31 mounts so if your looking for optimal handling you’ll need to make custom mounts to set the motor down and back a bit. You’ll also need a custom drive shaft. I didn’t think the GTR drive train would fit in the car but it will…. but this places the motor so far fwd the radiator has to be mounted on the other side of the core support!!!! But does give the car AWD ;> The rb-20 is an ok swap but only provides minimal power upgrade from a turbo l-28 The rb-25 is a bit better and can handle more power with its stock internals. The rb-26 is the ultimate in reliability and performance…. This motor can be built to 600+ HP and be driven to work everyday with a full exhaust. (no earplugs;>) For anyone considering this mod if you’re in Japan or Australia or have a lot of money go for it…. Anywhere else id go with v-8 or Toyota 2jz TT which is a very similar in performance to the rb26 No where you have to move around the steering column. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SER240Z Posted June 27, 2003 Share #29 Posted June 27, 2003 Read the thread, they were asking why Nissan never sold the Skyline in America before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrOxLaMuS© Posted June 27, 2003 Share #30 Posted June 27, 2003 I made several straight facts about the engine and how difficult the install will be. here is some info on the RHD problem.The DOT no longer accepts right hand drive cars as being substaincially similar to the US model unless the manufacturer provides information to the DOT stating the vehicles are substancially similar. and no they don't ask why the skyline isn't sold in the U.S... anywhere in that thread... what are you talking about. Here is the problem... with Skyline engines... other than the labor and parts.... Skyline ENGINES are simply they are illegal in the United States only because of emissions. Skyline cars are illegal because of U.S. emissions, speedometer , crash structure , lighting , US VIN , warning , and information labels. READ this... http://www.motorex.net/faq.html#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuong Nguyen Posted June 28, 2003 Share #31 Posted June 28, 2003 Originally posted by PrOxLaMuS© RB26DETT from an R33 GTR.... which normally has an 6-speed AWD tranny.. so he is using an RWD 5-speed tranny from an RB25DET NO. the R34 GTR had the 6 speed. The R32 GTR and R33 GTR BOTH have 5 speed gearboxes from factory.Yes, to use the RB26DETT in a Z, you need to use a RWD gearbox such as the ones behind the RB20DET or RB25DET. Noting that the RB25DET gearbox is bigger and has clearance issues with the "ears" in the transmission tunnel of a Z. 4WD is possible but VERY hard to do, has been done before but... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrOxLaMuS© Posted June 28, 2003 Share #32 Posted June 28, 2003 Oops, my mistake yeh that's right.. I typed that up to fast. But I did mean that you would need an RWD tranny from an RB25DET... thnx for correcting me Cuong Nguyen.. hell after all you know everythign about this swap... you did it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuong Nguyen Posted June 28, 2003 Share #33 Posted June 28, 2003 No problems, wasnt having a dig at you or anything! Just wanted to clear the air... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santamaus Posted June 29, 2003 Share #34 Posted June 29, 2003 So... about the legality and emissions bit--It seems that it is legal to do an engine swap as long as the engine polutes no more than the one you take out of the car. So, if I'm driving a '72 240--that's gonna be the grossest polluter of the bunch, right? Any RB (or turboed up L28 or bored L31 or something) engine is going to burn cleaner than the L24 I've got, right? So, shouldn't it be legal?And yes, since it's so old, it never has to be emission tested, but that's not really the point. Is it possible to get some sort of test for the engine you've dropped in that certifies that it passes the emissions for the year car you're driving, so that if anyone *did* have some issue with it, you could pull out the sheet, show that it was, in fact, a cleaner burning engine than stock, and drive off on your merry way?Thanks,Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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