Started fuel cell install...

[Ron Carter]

HMS,

that looks like a big cell for 30 to 40 min races? what is that, a 15 gallon? I would think that you would run a 8 or 12 gallon?? or am i mistaken..

I am getting ready to do the same proceedure on my race car, with a 12 gallon ATL. I have heard that the new tire well cells fit in a 240Z.. any thoughts..I am sure weight distribution would be a consideration, shifting the cell to the passenger side etc..:classic:

[hmsports]

It is actually a 12 gallon ATL cell. A local ITA Civic racer here uses the new well-cell and seems to like it. Doing it the way I did allow you to drop the weight down and more to the right side which will offset the driver as well as keep the roll-center lower.

I went with the 12 gallon in anticiapation of running some enduro races some day. For the local ITS races, I usually run around 6-8 gallons.

[Zvoiture]

A friend of mine said, "Don't install the Summit cell. They are not SCCA legal." He didn't elaborate, but perhaps now I understand. SCCA wants a layer of metal between you and the gas. The polyethylene tank does not provide this. Is this the reason? Or am I missing something else?

Does this 'bulkhead' have to be steel? Can it be aluminum? I noticed some other brands in the Summit catalogue, one of which is a 11 gallon Aluminum.

steve

[Zvoiture]

Oh...and Fuel Safe lists a round 'wheel well cell'. Pretty cool, but their REGULAR cell is listed at $746...I can't imagine what one of their 'specialty' cells would cost!!!!!!

steve77

[hmsports]

A friend of mine just installed the ATL well-cell into his ITA Civic (about $360). The only thing with that is you can't move the center of gravity down like you can with a 'standard' style box cell.

As far as the legality... all the GCR says is that a fuel cell that is exposed to the driver's compartment must have a metal bulkhead separating them. Most of the guys I know use aluminum for weight savings. That's what I plan on using.

Another requirement is that it be mounted where the lowest part of the cell is no lower than six inches from the ground.

[Ron Carter]

The ATL cells are very nice I just purchased a 12 gallon "well-cell" for my 240Z and it was $499.00. The guys at ATL were very helpful.

I would suggest contacting them for a fuel cell.

[phi22b@ck]

Its about time you started putting your car together Rick!!! Now that mine is on hold, I will have to watch you in order to keep my sanity!

p

[hmsports]

My son's soccer season is over this Saturday (I'm the manager/head coach) so I've got until Thanksgiving to get the final gutting complete and the cage built. I'm working on a sponsorship proposal now also. The plans in place! I'll be posting pictures and all the details on my web site at E-Production 240Z Build. The link also includes my estimated cost calculator :disappoin

[Dtsnlvrs]

Well good luck in the next season

[phi22b@ck]

Not too bad of a cost estimate -- I think your doing really well!

p

[hmsports]

That of course if because I'm reusing some stuff from my IT car such as:

Engine and carbs

Old header and exhaust

Gauges and senders

and I'm not going with fiberglass parts -- which saves another $1200 or so.

The major cost savings come from not having to build a $12,000 competative EProd engine. I figure I'll spend a year or so getting used to racing slicks and also making the car handle well before I put more power to the ground.

[2ManyZs]

Err, Rick, you have noticed in the rules you can't use the 5 speed right? You can only run 4 forward gears, as stock. Of course, there is nothing that says you can't mix and match the gears as long as they fit in the stock case.

This is only my opinion, but I'd save the money for the Tilton pedal assemblies the first year and go for a fiberglass hood and front fenders and work on getting the car down to minimum weight first. Then the second year go for a Quaiffe diff and the Tilton pedals,and maybe a dry sump, and, and, and......

Since with the ZX calipers the 15/16th master ought to do the trick you could cut one little corner until you get more seat time and HP to play with...

Just as an example, Mike Unger ran his 240 at Summit this year in EP for 2 races, and with nothing more than an IT motor, mildly hopped up, and bolting on a set of slicks, he ran within 2 seconds of the race leader with his Full Prep RX-7's..... not bad for a SVRA vintage car with steel fenders, hood, and stock brakes (IT prepped)..... :cross-eye

Actually, he equalled the winners fastest lap and was gaining on

him at the end of the race. I think you'll find the regional EP cars usually run about 2 seconds slower than Nationally prepped cars...