Spindle trouble

[xray]

Holy Crap. I hate hearing these stories--mainly because FGZ has a near-effortless solution---I have to shamelessly plug FirstGen Z for a moment.

His spindle pin puller is nothing short of amazing. Absolutely best $$ spent on tools so far. Both pins came out easy--no swearing (a rarity in my garage), no beating/torching/begging/BFHing/machine shop/replacement. Screw it on, turn the nut, out comes the pin. Can't get easier than that.

BTW, First Gen, you sell them for less than the cost of a spindle pin...

[ncz]

Hey, agreed, spindle pin puller is great!!! Wanted it out today and was surprised by the efffortless removal of the one pin. Don't mean to side step the great spindle pin puller, just spent 15'$ and its out!! Thought that was good. If I had time, would have ordered that puller. Now I am ready to reinstall. Thats all. Thanks Marty and the other guys who gave great advice

PS, the frozen pin froze one the inner bushing race of the outer bushing(does that make sense?) Came out with the pin.

[=Enigma=]

PS, the frozen pin froze one the inner bushing race of the outer bushing(does that make sense?) Came out with the pin.

Only makes sense if you read it about 10 times.

I originally gave each of my pins 3 whacks with the BFH and knew they weren't going to budge without being destroyed in the process, so I PM'd Beandip right away for the tool. A lot better than having to beat the snot out of it with my BFH. It took me 5 min. per side with the proper tool. I can't imagine why it would take more than 15 minutes total to do it with the puller. Your the man Beandip!

[bpilati]

What's wrong with the spindle pin that it needs pulling?

[ncz]

Seems like some hang, some don't.!!!! Hey Adam good point!! Let me try again, the bushing race on the lower control arm(inner) was the one that made me go to the machine shop. STUCK. You guys have a good one

[beandip]

What's wrong with the spindle pin that it needs pulling?

HELLO ! IT IS NOT THE PINS IT'S THE BUSHINGS .

[First Gen Z]

bpilati....Never been under your Z ? Ditto beandip, Pin has to come out to replace bushings. Thanks xray!!!

[=Enigma=]

bpilati....Never been under your Z ? Ditto beandip, Pin has to come out to replace bushings. Thanks xray!!!

Uhhhhhh.........yeah. Me thinks you are confused.

[bpilati]

My Z mechanic says that the bushings seldom need replacing. Now take this in the context that if don't want poly bushings in that location.

BTW, of course I've been under my Z, why would you even think otherwise?

[First Gen Z]

Bryan.... Just kidding. Thirty year old bushings do deteriorate. I replaced mine with factory rubber bushings. I didn't want to add to the already stiff ride. "I'm never serious unless I should be."

[ncz]

Hey guess what guys, just talked to local Z doctor to try to get some other parts and he said the same thing, they don't replace the outer bushings. They will replace the inboard bushings and call it a day. Well I guess I am either "The Man" or I'm a dumb@@#$. It always comes down to "Well I got it down this far, why not ......". Hope tomorrow is warm so I can paint those control arms!!

[=Enigma=]

Hey guess what guys, just talked to local Z doctor to try to get some other parts and he said the same thing, they don't replace the outer bushings. They will replace the inboard bushings and call it a day. Well I guess I am either "The Man" or I'm a dumb@@#$. It always comes down to "Well I got it down this far, why not ......". Hope tomorrow is warm so I can paint those control arms!!

I'm with you NCZ. If I'm going to take the trouble to tear it all apart, clean and paint it, I'm going to replace any consumable parts in the process. I'd rather not tear into it more than one unless absolutely necessary. Since my Z will be driven for pleasure, and most likely in relative anger at least 30-40% of the time, I don't mind a little stiffer ride. In fact, I'd prefer it so I'm going with poly. Now if this was going to be my daily driver, I would probably preserve a few more of the rubber components. But again, I would replace them with new ones while I'm in there.

All that said, most of the bushings in my car were still in acceptable condition, however most were also almost as hard as the poly I will be replacing them with. The only exceptions were the bump stops which literally crumbled when touched, and the rack bushings which were soft due to exposure to engine oil at some point.