original jute material

[bartsscooterservice]

18 hours ago, 26th-Z said:

Regardless, the jute is under the transmission tunnel vinyl.

Then it would be light weight sound deadening

[zed2]

The thickness of my reproduction jute is 9.59 mm.

Keith

 

Edited August 10, 2022 by zed2

[kats]

On 8/11/2022 at 2:52 AM, AZ-240z said:

I have a piece of NOS jute for the 1969-70 passenger side under-seat and tool storage area

that measures 8.27mm in thickness.

 

Hi Dan , thanks for sharing your mint NOS JUTE , this is what I have been thinking about.

Jute pads for S30 series are very hard to distinguish which is which especially this “ jute front floor rear “.
We have to get together and bring as many examples as possible with each date of manufacture to see what is original for a each car .  

I see 74922-E4100 in your picture, and it is obvious to be under a LHD seat in our LHD 240Z . 
 

Then how we can order for a  RHD seat ? Cars up to around 01/1971 can’t flip it to the other side because of different configurations for the other tool stowage. But there is no description of “ jute front floor rear “ of RHD seat in LHD 240Z “ in parts catalogs for export models . I checked both US and Canada , and other destinations of LHD 240Z . 

They list only 74922-E4100 , no specifying L or R . Even the drawing is wrong . It is the same on November 1969 catalog and December 1979 catalog.
 

But there is an answer in a Fairlady Z parts catalog . It lists for both , 74922-E4100 for Right side , 74923-E4100 for Left side. As you can see from this , they can be fit for both RHD S30 and LHD S30 cars , just need to switch L and R accordingly. 

But even a Fairlady Z parts catalog, it doesn’t list different parts numbers for cars when they have a reinforcement on the floor under the seat bottoms ( probably around April or May 1970 )  . Those cars have two piece jute divided by the reinforcement. Nissan didn’t think about it needs to list? Just cut them half and put them on !

And Dan , your NOS one has a unique feature, I am guessing that is for only very early cars like up to Jan 1970 . 
Two square cut outs for Velcro fasteners. 
 

My March 1970 240Z doesn’t have the cut outs ,

again Nissan didn’t think about applying a new part number for deletion of the cut outs . 
 

I show the jute pictures again which are provided my Z432 friend Watanabe san . His car registered in Dec 1969 , PS30-00063 . 

And Keith , I am very interested in your comments about early US cars have carpet set in the US . Look at Watanabe san’s carpet , I see beautiful loop pile .But I have been wondering why my US 240Z ‘s carpet looked different . 
If it is true , I will regret that I threw away my HLS30-02156 ‘s carpet set because they looked aftermarket for the car.

Let’s find out.

Kats

 

Edited August 12, 2022 by kats

[zed2]

7 hours ago, kats said:

And Keith , I am very interested in your comments about early US cars have carpet set in the US . Look at Watanabe san’s carpet , I see beautiful loop pile .But I have been wondering why my US 240Z ‘s carpet looked different . 
If it is true , I will regret that I threw away my HLS30-02156 ‘s carpet set because they looked aftermarket for the car.

Let’s find out.

Kats

 

 

 

 

Kats,

Is Watanabe san’s car a Fairlady Z-L( https://global.nissannews.com/en/releases/release-13d7bc8a1f613356fb7f04775611b5c4/photos/1)?

Regards,

Keith

[kats]

Hi Keith, Watanabe san’s car is a Z432 , PS30-00063 December 1969 .

Fairlady Z-L and Fairlady 240Z-L and Fairlady 240ZG have  almost same goodies like Z432 . Carpet set including for side sill rails, stop watch , 8 track tape and radio player with a dual speakers , passing light switch , etc etc .

Kats

[zed2]

Kats,

I believe the "L" vehicles had some "luxury" features, including the driver and passenger floor carpeting.

My 1970 circa heel pad is shown below 

Please post a photo of Watanabe san’s car's heel pad.

Thanks,

Keith

[kats]

Ok I will ask him .

Kats

[kats]

Before getting back from Watanabe san , here are some pictures from 1969 cars at Tokyo Motor show , and Nissan Ginza head office gallery.The color pictures are 1969 Fairlady 

Z-L . As a side note , there are some indications which tell us this car is super early. No hood bumpers , tiny rubber bumpers on the inspection lid , etc . 
 

Kats

[kats]

Just for your reference, a set of jute and carpet of my Dec 1971 US 240Z which I sold it in 2021. I can't see the circular cut out which can be seen on earlier car. 

Kats 

[zed2]

Is this jute sewn to the carpet of your Dec 1971 US 240Z?

 

Also, heel pad appears identical to mine shown in #138 above.

Keith

[kats]

Hi Keith, yes the jute is sewn to the carpet , looks like it is original , an inspection stamp has an inspector name “ Hoshino “ on it , 1 K 15  15 will mean 1971 November 15th , the last ‘15’ is still unknown. 
This car has a set of 5 pieces carpet and 5 pieces of jute , all carpets have this inspection stamp at the back . 
 

Yes I think so too , the heel pad looked to be the same as yours , interesting! 
 

Kats

[Patcon]

My plan is to make some templates for the jute. I am looking to do this for an 11/70 car. If anyone can provide any dimensions they would be most welcomed

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