Fairlady Zon E-bay

[lan240]

Just thought I would share this with the group

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2436031180&category=6187

[26th-Z]

I just wrote the seller. I may go check the car out.

[26th-Z]

Called the guy, talked to him, going to view it this evening. Full report later.

[26th-Z]

I just returned from looking at the car. I did not drive it. The decsription is pretty accurate although I realize how a seller must present an item to generate interest. I do not get to look at too many ZG's, but this one appears to be all there. His description of a tiny bit of rust is less than you all would normally imagine. The fenders need to come off and have the fender wells cleaned out. For what I have seen East of the Mississippi, this car has "no rust". It has a fuel injected L20 engine - Y 70 head casting number.

The guy is an ex Marine and brought a couple of cars home. He seems to know what they are worth as reflected in his reserve price.

[2ManyZs]

If that were a 2 seater, you'd probably need another bay in your garage about now huh?

Of course, if it were a 2 seater, a lot of us would be wondering where we could put it......:devious:

[26th-Z]

Yea, I'm not really interested in a 2+2 and the last thing I need to be doing is spending my restoration money on another car. I thought you guys would be interested and I got a chance to go look at a ZG. It is a serious "could be nice" car. It was 7:30 when I looked at the car and daylight was fading fast. The flashlight was handy, but you can appreciate how difficult it is to look at a car in the dark. He has another Fairlady - a '72 with many modifications including 432 headers.

[HS30-H]

Originally posted by 26th-Z

I thought you guys would be interested and I got a chance to go look at a ZG.

He has another Fairlady - a '72 with many modifications including 432 headers.

Come on 26th-Z, I expect better of you than that!

A GS31 with an aftermarket copy G-Nose on it does NOT get the right to be called a "ZG".

Only true Factory-built HS30-H models can be called "ZG", and in fact even if you took the G-Nose and Overfenders OFF of a ZG it would still be a ZG. Only the Factory could create a true ZG.

This car looks like many thousands of cars that are still lurking in the rural areas of Japan. A modified GS31 like this would not be all that expensive either.

And if this guy has a '72 with 432 headers then it must be SERIOUSLY modified. The S20 engine has different exhaust port size, shape ( round ports ), spacing and stud holes to the L-series engine - so a 432 header would NOT fit. He's probably just got a Japanese market 'taco ashi' ( Octopus leg ) manifold that he thinks sounds a bit more glamorous if he links it to the 432. Believe me - they DO NOT fit. I have both and they are NOT interchangeable................

Painting black and white stripes on a pony does not make it a Zebra. Come on guys - this is the best Z-related site on the web. Lets keep the standards up.

Alan T.

[Z Kid]

I was waiting for Alan to jump on the ZG bandwagon. Its still a nice looking Z though, and I am sure that with a bit of work someone could once again turn it into a smashing looker. I really like the G nose on 2 seaters, but there is just something about the 2+2 which makes it look not quite right. Oh well horses for courses.

[26th-Z]

I deserve the scolding Alan. My apologies. And I used the ZG term loosely. I’ll try to behave better in the future. Carl pointed out that the ’78 could not have had a factory G nose, as it wasn’t offered. I was hoping to see something more original as well. Evidently, I need to get out and look at a few cars!

I had very little time to look at the car before I had to get out the flashlight. I was unable to verify serial numbers and other vital info. It was just too dark for my aging eyes. This fellow is close enough that I will be able to stay in contact. He speaks Japanese, offering some help in purchasing and shipping parts. He knew nothing of this club or IZCC.

I seem to recall the other Fairlady had a P 90 head. Yes, it was heavily modified and it was too dark to photograph. It was also showing rust to a frightening level. I was thinking of you when I saw a roll bar in the '72 car. It had a fiberglass deck lid.

We discussed prices of cars and parts in Japan. I was a little shocked and then thankful that this is not so expensive here in America.

[Gav240z]

Yeah i think it was something like 70 - 73 or maybe even later for the ZG model run like 71-73 i think the latter.

So no 2+2 Gnose model ever was released there was a prototype at the tokyo show in 74 with the intro of the 2+2.

I kinda like the car but I don't think i'll go for a 2+2 again unless it's a bit of fun for me and the boys 2+2 with an RB26 .

I too was waiting for Alan to chime in and make a few corrections.

Still i wouldn't mind grabbing that Gnose off it

[HS30-H]

26th-Z - I'll accept the apology on behalf of all REAL HS30-H models living and dead :classic:

I'm not trying to score points off anyone - just trying to get verbal and anecdotal history to match up with reality. This site has a very good standard ( compared to many other Z related sites ) and its worth looking after that.

26th-Z might I suggest that you ask the opinion of somebody with first-hand experience of the ZG model - if there is anything in particular that you want to know about them - rather than that of somebody who seems to regard the RHD models as "irrelevant"

Nissan only made the HS30-H model from late 1971 to late 1973, and it was indeed only in 2-seater form. Nissan showed a 2by2 model - with the full G-Nose panels - on a showstand once, but then decided not to go ahead with the model in that spec.

If you see one with a 2-litre engine ( and an "S30" VIN prefix ) then its not a Factory-built ZG. Likewise, but slightly more difficult to weed out, many G-Nose panels and Overfenders have been attached to "HS30" VIN prefixed cars ( the correct VIN prefix ) but if any of these did not leave the Factory as a true ZG model then simply bolting the panels ( real or not ) onto a car will NOT make a Factory ZG. There are lots of ways to tell a REAL one from a fake or a replica, and you have to look at a lot of details to come to a final conclusion. Unfortunately, broadcasting these tell-tales tends to help fakers pass off their vehicles as the real thing - so I won't.

It has sometimes been possible to find cars that left the Factory as ZG models - but which later ended up losing their G-Nose and Overfender panels ( due to damage or other factors ). Despite the fact that they look like 'normal' bodied HS30 models, these cars ARE still Factory ZG's. If you can't get your head round that - just think of Michael Jackson. He's still the same person as that little kid who sang "ABC" - but he doesn't look like him.............

I get a cold chill down the spine when I see the famous ex-Mr K. yellow Z described as a "ZG". This is a good example of the difference between a nose job and Z au naturelle. If I put a false moustache and glasses on, and stick a large cigar in my mouth, it does not make me Groucho Marx..................

Alan T.

[Jae]

i say its worth the cost