260 2+2 what is really bad about ?

[gator]

Just wodering why everyone seems to hate the 260z? what is different about them from the 240 ? I may need to get a 2+2 for the 2 kids ..wife etc .. ya know.. Thanks ..Bruce

[Mr Camouflage]

For me, they just dont have the same appeal as a 2 seater sports car. The streched roofline with the hump in it just doesn't compare the with the smooth curve of the 240z/260 2 seater. Also the dash of a 240z is is much more apealing to me than a 260z dash, 2+2 or 2.

I dont hate 2+2 they are really good to pull apart and cut up for parts for my 240z :classic:

I think alot of americans dont like the 260z because they got the emmissions controll version of the L26 with the crappy carbs and the air pump hich made them less powerfull than the 240z.

Here in australia we got the non emmission controll L26 which had 10 more horsepower than the L24. we got the L26 with high compression right up to 1977, where as the USA, it was replaced with the L28 around '76 to increase HP while still having all the emission controll gear.

[Zedrally]

There is nothing wrong with a 2+2.

I've got 2 and my partner loves driving the going one.

Realisticly, the're great to get out for a weekend, plenty luggage space, auto/air etc makes a great weekend touring car.

If you have a couple of kids then they won't be left out either.

On the other hand if you want a fang either on a circuit or in the dirt then nothing can beat a 2 seater.

Happy family, happy car. Get it

MOM

[v12horse]

I don't own a 2/2, but I have a 260 and I love it. I also think the dash is quite nice too. Of course I cannot compare because I have never driven a 240z. Here is a pic of my interior. Also, I think that the early 260 2/2 is sleeker than most 2/2's because the bumpers are smaller than the later model and the 280.

The other thing is, you can always take those old emission friendly su's off and put on 72' su's like I did. Good luck on the car. Personally, I think the 2/2 looks great.

-Ben

http://www.classiczcars.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=6301&password=&sort=7&thecat=500

[280zx Fever]

isnt the 240z 2+2 and the 260z 2+2 the same shape ?

the 2+2 is roof hump is more visable in the 280zx

[v12horse]

There is no 240z 2/2. Yes the 260z 2/2 and the 280z 2/2 have the same roofline.

[Mr Camouflage]

Yeah there is no 240z 2+2, thought was always on the drawing board form the beginning. Nissans just didnt start making them untill the 260z.

Hey Craig, so you'r not going to get the 280zx chassis and swap the bits from the crashed one huh? I still thing its would be worth it to do. Ah well. I know someone with a 280zx 2 seater, which he may be pursuaded to sell, if you want the one of the rarest zx's in australia.

the z31 2 seater's arent so bad either, especially the 200ZR.

[Victor Laury]

I believe Alan brought up the fact that the 2+2 was developed simultaniously with the coupe. But, I could find no way for the search engine to accept "2+2 prototype".

As for the 2+2 of any generation, If I wanted a four seater, I think I'd chose a car designed for that function over one that was adapted for it. On the other hand, If you don't start by comparing it to the coupe, It's still a handsome car.

Even in the late 70's the U.S. market 260 was labled a Lemon due to the carburation. Smog laws limiting modification kept it down. The Weber DGV's were only a slight improvment over the Hitachi "Tuna Cans". It is most likley that the Hitachi's at perfect tune are better that their only Air-Board-approved replacement.

However, here in California, lest further legislative action, the 1974 260 will be free of inspection. The law itself will still make altering engine components and disabling emission control devices a no-no. But, no one will look, unless your pulled over for smoking.

I'm willing to bet there will be an even higher demand for Dome-tops, rebuilt or cores come next year. Ztherapy take note.

Bumpers are a draw back on the U.S. market 74's. Did the Aussie market get the big bumpers? Maybe someone will reproduce the 73.5 ones for retrofit.

Yes the interiors changed, but look at the photo of Ben's interior and tell me, "Is that any less of a classic Z?"

[v12horse]

Thanks for the compliment Victor,:classic: . I know the the early 260 bumpers are not as small as the 240z ones, but they still look pretty good and would be fitted on a early 260 2/2. I am not sure about the Canadian version though. They may not have had to go with the bigger bumpers. Anyways, look at my pic. I was thinking about fitting 240 bumpers on my car, but I decided to leave it original since it is pretty rare to see an all original early 260. Good luck.

http://www.classiczcars.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=6303&password=&sort=7&thecat=500

Regards,

Ben

[Victor Laury]

Hey! Ben,

Seeing your photo reminded me - Your were at MSA 03 right? I'm almost sure I voted your car best stock 260.

[v12horse]

Thanks a lot for the vote! Yes I was at MSA and I won first in the oem 260z class. I was so shocked because there are so many little(and big) imperfections on my car. It was a great honor to win though. I saw your car there too. It was parked next to Mr. K's if I am not mistaken? I wasn't sure if that one was yours at the time, but I remember the color of your car. Are the mags on your car from the dealer? I have never seen them with the extra slot before I saw your car. Anyways, take care, and I love how your car looks with the headlight covers.

Regards,

Ben

[Victor Laury]

Sorry to get off thread - Yes That was my car. Don't be too surprised your car won. We are always over critical of our own cars. Your detailing was good. Because of that you made a better presentation. There were only about 5 260's there, so you didn't get lost in the crowd. Like when judging the 280's, you could have seen a perfect car first, and forgot about it by the time you saw the last!

The mags are Pacer Sport wheels that the Nissan Dealers were installing on Z's and Roadsters in late 1969 and 1970 only. They came from the dealer on my 1970 Roadster. I'm not sure if it was just the SoCal Dealers or if they were more widespread.

I had no idea of there history untill Les at CDM tried (hard) to buy them. After I refused, repetitivly, He showed my the first addition of "How to Modify Your Datsun" and in the back pages it went over the Dealer option parts and identified these wheels.

Besides the 6 holes, they have a smooth dish to the rim edge, instead of the sharp angle to the flat of the rim. Downside, they are only 6'' as opposed to the 7'' "Indy" 5 holes wheels that were installed on later years

Since then, I've had a couple of folks, who are restoring 1969~79 Z's get very excited when they ask "Will you sell them?". Followed by a dejected "Oh" when I answer negitive.