sahunt66 Posted November 13, 2003 Share #1 Posted November 13, 2003 I recently got a 240Z that has been in storage since the early 90's. I'm working on getting it back on the road. I'm very happy and it's a nice car. The old owner claimed the car is a 1970 1/2 model year. Could this be true? What year is it? The manufacture date is 7/70. The VIN is HLS30-07736 Is there anything that explains how to read the VIN? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ManyZs Posted November 13, 2003 Share #2 Posted November 13, 2003 Err, it's pretty obvious when you have the build date as to when it was built.:cross-eye It was built in July of 70 so it should be titled as a 70.It was the 7,736th HLS30 car off the production line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sahunt66 Posted November 13, 2003 Author Share #3 Posted November 13, 2003 It's not obvious to me. There are cars on the lot today being sold as 2004's that were built in 2003. I guess my question could have been when was the model year cutoff...July, Aug., Sept,.....? I know that the VIN can give information such as transmission type, color, interior, options, etc. I thought maybe the code on this car contained that information too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwz Posted November 13, 2003 Share #4 Posted November 13, 2003 This info at zhome.com explains it better than I can...http://zhome.com/History/1970or1971.htmlThe later 17 digit VIN numbers tell you all kinds of info like trim color, options, etc but those early "short" vin numbers tell you nothing but the car's serial number, left/right hand drive and body style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ManyZs Posted November 13, 2003 Share #5 Posted November 13, 2003 The VIN numbers on the Z's do not show anything except the chassis designation and the number the chassis was off the line.Unfortunately, unlike US manufactureres and others, Nissan didn't "code" their VIN numbers to show what the car had for equipment.Nor did they use a "fender tag" with the optional equipment that was installed.Back in the 70's, most of the next years models cars were started somewhere around Sept, but, with the Z's coming by ship from Japan the transit times may have played into the year the car was titled as, due to it's arrival in the US. Or, when it was loaded on the ship, cars might have been missed in the lot and not shipped until the next shipment went out.I've seen a couple Z cars that were built in Sept and titled as the following year, while a car that was built in August was titled the previous year. So, it's almost impossible to pin down an exact date the change-over occured.Today's manufacturers (especially US manufacturers) have put out a new model year car as early as May or June.... in other words, today they change the model year any time they choose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambikiller240 Posted November 13, 2003 Share #6 Posted November 13, 2003 Back in the early 70's the DOMESTIC new cars began to be sold in October of the previous year. I.E. 1971 Ford, Chebbies, Chrysler cars began to be sold in October of 1970. Foreign car manufacturers didn't necessarily follow that scheme, though *some" effort was made by *some* manufacturers.Your car was manufactured in 1970 and would typically have arrived in the US in 1970 also. It could have been titled as either a 1970 or 1971 depending on the arrival date and how money hungry the original dealer was. There was no "half year" model.The link that Chloe provided explains it in much more detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zs-ondabrain Posted November 13, 2003 Share #7 Posted November 13, 2003 And from what I've read in previous times and as far as I can tell,There were 9977 cars in the first production year of the 240Z.So if your Z is under that number than most likely it's a 70'Info taken from "How to restore your DATSUN Z-CAR" By Wick Humble, Page 6, Paragragh 7, Line 8Quote'' Only 9977 were registered as 1970s; 26,733 as 71s; 46,537 as 72s; and 52556 as 73s." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26th-Z Posted November 13, 2003 Share #8 Posted November 13, 2003 And further more.... a build date of 7/70 would indicate a Series 1 car. Datsun did not implement design or production changes based on Model year, but rather Calendar year during this period. Your car should exhibit all the characteristics of what we refer to as a "Series One" car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sahunt66 Posted November 13, 2003 Author Share #9 Posted November 13, 2003 Thanks for all the information! I clicked on the link that mwz provided. There's good information there! Because of the VIN and that the fresh air vents are on the deck lid, my car is a 1970/Series One. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26th-Z Posted November 13, 2003 Share #10 Posted November 13, 2003 I had to go looking for it. Here is the link discussing the differences between Series One and Two cars.http://zhome.com/History/New71Late.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasz Posted November 13, 2003 Share #11 Posted November 13, 2003 Originally posted by Zs-ondabrain There were 9977 cars in the first production year of the 240Z.So if your Z is under that number than most likely it's a 70' Unfortunately like mentioned previously, it is not that clear cut. My car is a great example! It's production date is 8/70, VIN is HLS3008215, has all the charateristics of a Series I car yet is titled as a '71. *shrug* Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambikiller240 Posted November 13, 2003 Share #12 Posted November 13, 2003 Originally posted by texasz Unfortunately like mentioned previously, it is not that clear cut. My car is a great example! It's production date is 8/70, VIN is HLS3008215, has all the charateristics of a Series I car yet is titled as a '71. *shrug* Go figure. Well, he did say "most likely". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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