Chrysler ME-412 Concept Car

[hmsports]

Quad-Turbo V12 Concept Car from Chrysler:

[2ManyZs]

Being a MOPAR kinda guy, I like it... but, it looks too much like a Lambo, Bugatti EB110, Ferrari clone..... Even has some of the Saleen S7 in it in places.........

[Bambikiller240]

Originally posted by 2ManyZs

Being a MOPAR kinda guy, I like it... but, it looks too much like a Lambo, Bugatti EB110, Ferrari clone..... Even has some of the Saleen S7 in it in places.........

Unfortunately, if ever built it will probably have just enough MOPAR in it to break down regularly and fall apart prematurely. :tapemouth

Sorry Keith. My father worked in Chrysler dealerships for his whole adult life. Our family had Chryslers, Plymouths, and Dodges as long as he was alive (till 97). Most of them could be described as POS. The only Chrysler built product I ever owned that lasted was a 1964 Dodge Dart. Inline Slant 6 cyl, with a Push-button 3 speed auto trans.

Now if they could get the reliabilty up and retain the styling.........

[MikeW]

My wife's 2001 PT Cruiser actually has fairly high fit and finish. The only problem we've had in 50,000 miles was a power steering pump failure that was replaced under warranty (thank goodness as it was something like 8 hours of labor due to all the stuff in the way). It does seem to consume oil faster than normal. My 1990 240SX doesn't burn any between changes even at 150,000.

[2ManyZs]

Well, I'm on my 5th Dodge since early 94, and haven't had more than minor problems with any of them...

Of course, 2 of them have been Cummins diesels, so that might have something to do with it.....

Most trouble free one I had was the 94, with the 318, 18-22mpg with a 1/2 ton 4x4 and put over 80K on it in less than 3 years while I was commuting.

[Victor Laury]

Carl, You cannot possbly be knocking the beautifull cars of my past! my 1968 Sport Fury III was awesome! then after the transmission fell out

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I bought a 1968 2 door polara. This was possibly the best car for stoner kid in the mid to late 70's. Oh my god, it was a guilded magic sled. I get a kick when I see the "Grumpy Old Men" films, as my old Polara is one of the stars!

Just picture, 1975, Miami Fla. you pull up to a BIG white dodge and through the smoke fogged windows, you see the overweight, long-haired, funky sunglassed, leather-string-vest wearin, Led Zepp blairing, hemp smoke stinkkin, Victor-kid. And I wondered back-then why i always got pulled over for car searches!

My, If I could I'd give myself a Retro-Smack-on-the-Head for being such a dumb kid.[

Ok, off topic, I know, but I can't afford the fancy sports car that started this thread.

[Bambikiller240]

My Mother still has the 92 Chrysler Caravan that was the last car my Dad purchased. In the first 5 years (27,000 miles) they had two complete new transmissions installed. It now has appx 50K miles on it, and has had a headgasket blow, it uses oil, and plastic parts of the interior are cracking. A couple years ago, a rear hatch hinge failed, and the Hatch practically knocked my 77 year old Mother out cold.

Victor, sound like you were a kid like me in my Dart.

:smoke::smoke:

I was a big Dodge fan. My bro had a Polaris which looked like a CHP cruiser from a distance.

The Cars of the 60's were much better than the the ones since the early 80's IMHO. Lee I-O-Co-Co-Nut may have saved the company but he cheapened the product greatly.

[owenk]

The Cars of the 60's were much better than the the ones since the early 80's IMHO. Lee I-O-Co-Co-Nut may have saved the company but he cheapened the product greatly.

Sorry but I have to disagree, the engines in the 60s cars typically only lasted 100,000 miles, after about 6 months everything rattled. Oh and the warrantee 1 to 3 months on body parts 12-24 K miles on the engine. Now lets look a the performance (American cars only) wow strait line acceleration but oh my god do not change directions :eek: unless you have the beefed up suspension that came in patrol cars.

BUT I still have fond memories of my dads 69 Chrysler Town and Country with a 383, and the heavy duty package (patrol car) which included a 4BBL carb and a ¼ race cam. Man did that car sound good when you put your foot into it. There is still no auto sound more American than a big V8

Getting back to the lack of quality in the older cars, before OPEC :pirate: :bandit: oil embargo of 73 the Japanese cars had been making slow in roads to our market then due to fuel mileage concerns they got a leg up on US cars and the general public discovered the quality of the cars. The US makers had to play catch-up and IMO generally they have done a good job. Could they do better? Yes

[Bambikiller240]

Perhaps I used too strong of words in my post, as there is no doubt that mileage and horsepower per c.c. displacement has risen. Onmany cars fit and finish has improved too.

But in the cars of my youth (1960-80 approx) I never noticed little old ladies who NEVER abuse the car have to replace 2 transmissions in under 30K miles, and I never saw a door hinge just snap in two on a car that has never been in an accident or damaged in anyway. What I probably should have said was, Chrysler products of that era were better (IMHO) than products of the other car makers AT THAT TIME.

[Zrush]

I like the car but I wish they wouldn't put such sharp angles mixed in with smooth lines. It does look kinda like a cross breed of a Farrari with a touch of Mustang thrown in.

I know the word is thrown around today in the Dodge commercials, but IMO nothing really beats an old school 426 hemi built to the max.

[Mr Camouflage]

Originally posted by zrush

I like the car but I wish they wouldn't put such sharp angles mixed in with smooth lines.

Thats the current trend in vechicle design. 5-10 years ago you couldn't find a sharp line on a car. It was all curves. Now its curves with sharp edges thrown in. for example look at the BMW Z3 compared with the Z4. or even the 300zx and the 350z

Going back even further to the 80's it was sharp lines everywhere and hardly any curves. (anyone remember the subaru vortex. not a curve to be seen anywhere. Nissan exa also)

Generally speaking of course.

[owenk]

I know the word is thrown around today in the Dodge commercials, but IMO nothing really beats an old school 426 hemi built to the max.

Yes the 50s and 60s hemis are what come to mind when you say Hemi. Heck my 73 Dodge colt was a hemi, and my 93 Saturn is a hemi and god knows how many other cars have hemispherical combustion chambers. Which brings me to other ad agency rip off of the 60s cars. . . Acura or Intrega calling a model the return of the muscle car! The Muscle car will never return. It was a stripped down model with a monster engine crammed in. It shook, rattled and smelled of raw horsepower. Its like calling the 300ZX the same type of car as the 240Z. IMO the car that has come closest to 240Z idea was the early Mazda Miata, affordable, fun to drive and will not hurt your eyes to look at.