TomoHawk Posted January 24, 2004 Author Share #13 Posted January 24, 2004 The same reason is why it's good for US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblake01 Posted January 24, 2004 Share #14 Posted January 24, 2004 I think that the main reason they don't find the Datsun vehicles to be collectable is misinformation. Just look at the fact that they say 240 and 260. I can understand a 260 not being as collectable but 240s especially the 70 models meet all the criteria. They were produced in low numbers, they were popular (and still are), and they do generate a strong interest. The general gearhead, muscle car, British, German, Italian, etc, car type collector has a low opinion and even lower knowledge of Japaneese cars. After all, he also said the he thought the old Celica Hatchbacks would become collectable. He called them 'Mini Mustangs!' I have been to these weekend burger stand car shows and they don't even know what my car is! "Nice 240," or "What year is it?", or "Is it a 240, 260, or 280?" You name it, I've heard it. Some even think its something other that a Datsun. So, to these Barrett-Jackson types, we Datsun nuts, or nuts of any other Japaneese car, will never get our due. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomoHawk Posted January 24, 2004 Author Share #15 Posted January 24, 2004 Originally posted by sblake01 I think that the main reason they don't find the Datsun vehicles to be collectable is misinformation. Just look at the fact that they say 240 and 260. I can understand a 260 not being as collectable but 240s especially the 70 models meet all the criteria. They were produced in low numbers, they were popular (and still are), and they do generate a strong interest. I think a big reason to add is that the Z-cars were considered sporty race cars, and since they've never won at LeMans, or Sebring, or any other "famous race", they never really made to big fame,like the enzos or Jag, Astin-Martin, Porsche, etc. At least in numbers. One or two rallies spread out by years probably doesn't mean much to those kinds of people."Nice 240,"I was surprised you didn't say "280", or "ZX" because that's what people usually think of. Until I got interested the the GTO kit, I didn't really know much about the 240 or 260. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblake01 Posted January 24, 2004 Share #16 Posted January 24, 2004 Originally posted by TomoHawk "Nice 240,"I was surprised you didn't say "280", or "ZX" because that's what people usually think of. Until I got interested the the GTO kit, I didn't really know much about the 240 or 260. But, that's my point. It is a 280! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomoHawk Posted January 24, 2004 Author Share #17 Posted January 24, 2004 Those people mus t be automotive "experts" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambikiller240 Posted January 24, 2004 Share #18 Posted January 24, 2004 Or "expurts". Like they couldn't even notice the badges on the side and back of the car to figure which it is. :stupid: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Webster Posted January 25, 2004 Share #19 Posted January 25, 2004 I think you folks might be missing something about the auction with your concern that our beloved Z's don't get the respect we feel they should. I'd be real interested in seeing one of the original Newman/Haas Z's offered there. One of the ones that Paul Newman raced. I think it may prove to be another of those over-the-top cars. I tend to think a 39 Zepher with a well dressed original motor going for 400K is a case where two fools met. 112K for a 69 Z28 Camaro? and it wasn't a COPO? I don't think this auction is truly representative of values that can be expected. This auction is a theatrical event (beats Speed-Racer and NASCAR reruns). Fun, but don't take any of it to the bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill.Oakes Posted January 25, 2004 Share #20 Posted January 25, 2004 It's not a big deal, but the guy I saw on Speed TV won $50,000 in Barrett-Jackson bucks. Rightous Bucks! He was the last guy in his circle of friends to not have a Muscle car to cruise Woodward Ave in. Guess he's got one NOW! I wonder what he bought? I too tried, but didn't win. They did a small feature on him on the Speed Channel, very cool. He end up buying a beautiful 70's Chevelle convertible. Sure would love to be there drooling over cars (instead of shivering here in Chicago) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomoHawk Posted January 25, 2004 Author Share #21 Posted January 25, 2004 Originally posted by D-Webster I'd be real interested in seeing one of the original Newman/Haas Z's offered there. One of the ones that Paul Newman raced. I think it may prove to be another of those over-the-top cars. There's an excellent example of the kind of cars that would seet the standard for having Zeds on a show like Barrett-Jackson (2-Ts in Barrett). Just because a Z car never had a name like "Eleanor" or raced across the streets of San Fransisco to give it real notoriety doesn't mean they aren't out there. the Mustangs and Carmaros and the rest seem to have a head start, so, like Allain said, they just haven't caught up yet.How many more are there that the public doesn't really know of? We could do doourselves a favour by making the important examples noticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomoHawk Posted January 25, 2004 Author Share #22 Posted January 25, 2004 Originally posted by Bambikiller240 "expurts". Like they couldn't even notice the badges on the side and back of the car to figure which it is. :stupid: I dunno about badges... Mine has a shiny silver prancing horse on the back! Horse-power?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomoHawk Posted January 25, 2004 Author Share #23 Posted January 25, 2004 Originally posted by D-Webster I tend to think a 39 Zepher with a well dressed original motor going for 400K is a case where two fools met. 112K for a 69 Z28 Camaro? and it wasn't a COPO? I don't think this auction is truly representative of values that can be expected. This auction is a theatrical event Theatrical, yes. Original what? At 65 years old I don't think it would start or even move. It should be rusted solid by then. The rubber hoses should be dust, unable to hold any kind of pressure, like the ones on my 78 280Z. But those guys occasionally say (on air) that the auction people and sellers go to great lengths to make sure the cars get the fair price for what it is. What do you thin a 280Z would go for when it's 65 years old? From some of the insurance caims I read about on the forums, I don't think they'll let you insure it at that age! Well, OK, they give you the $150 for the worth of the scrap steel. :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambikiller240 Posted January 25, 2004 Share #24 Posted January 25, 2004 Originally posted by TomoHawk I dunno about badges... Mine has a shiny silver prancing horse on the back! Horse-power?? I was referring to Stephen Blakeney's 280 and his comments about people not recognizing his car. On your 280 zcar, (w/ a GTO kit?) it would be much more likely that the "average idiot" wouldn't know what it was. ( They never cease to disappoint me!) Fewer Ferrari's to "experience/compare to" and the combination of Datsun mechanicals and "Un-Datsun" body panels would throw off many who aren't really into sports cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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