Z432

What color would you say of the paint finish, Kats?

Reminds me of the Toyota 2000GT valve cover.

I see you are following the photos, Rob. I am told that the paint color should be darker if not black. I'm also told that the engine block color is supposed to be silver. Notice the hose clamps?

I was thinking of doing my valve cover and air box in this color.

Hello Chris and dadds,

This valve cover's color is correct for 1970 S20 engine.I can see this color in the some magazines issued jan or feb 1970.

I was told this color "greenish" is the second , the earliest S20 is "blackish".

I think this is almost right. And there is a factory RED one this is the third and final,I do not know for this.I am not for sure.

Alan can give an answer for us !!

I am doing post a new thread for HLS30 and PS30/comparison between these early 1970 cars.

kats

Kats,

I think some of the 432 'press' cars were fitted with cam covers that were a different shade to the main production cars - so it is hard to use them as a benchmark...... I always worry about flash photography and early 1970s origination and colour litho printing, not to mention fading inks on 37 year old magazines!

PGC10 ( 4 door ) GT-R cam covers were crackle black ( or at least a very very very dark grey ) and Murayama ( works ) competition S20 engines were crackle black.

Some KPGC10 ( 2HT ) GT-R valve covers seem to have been a slightly lighter greenish-grey crackle finish, and some KPGC110 can be observed as lighter still. Hard to be definitive on this though.

Crackle red was never a factory finish according to my sources of advice ( who should know, given their occupation in the period concerned ) but we see lots of them painted that colour by owners over the years, and by tuning garages such as Ishizaka san's. I think this is 'Testa Rossa' romance!

My project S20 engine ( no. S20-000877 ) was originally from a very early 432 ( produced in late 1969 or very early 1970 I'm told ) and lots of the components are dated S44. Valve cover was surely never repainted before I bought it, and it was what I would describe as a 'faded black' crackle finish. I scrubbed and scrubbed, and it still came up blackish dark grey......... but where the paint was covered by brackets and attachments it was pure black crackle underneath.

Definitely some variations 'in period' then......

Hello Alan,

Thank you for your input.That is what I want.I too understand it is not safe to say "this is 100% sure" according old color picture.I love this grey very much though.

This Z432 has S20-000884!! Very near from your 432R's engine.Yes this car registered Jan 1970,I found tach and speed meter and lots of parts dated 44(1969)and some 45(1970). The dash is stamped 26 DEC 1969,after the X'mas day is not it?

This car is PS30-00088 and S20-000884.Lots of "8" I love it. In japan,8 means good thing.I can not exprain it in english for now.Could you help me Alan.

kats

Hello Kats. That is a very handsome valve cover! It sounds like you have found a very interesting car. 88-884 is very lucky numerology!

Chris

Kats,

WOW! - PS30-00088, that's great! And engine number just 7 away from mine. Amazing.

The number 8 being 'lucky' in Japan is all to do with Kanji. The best way for me to describe it ( as a layman ) is that the shape of the Kanji for the number 8 is a positive shape, called 'Suehiro-gari' in Japanese. Basically something that is wider at the bottom than at the top has good balance, and signifies that things will get better as they progress. That's my non-Japanese take on it anyway......!

Kats, the number 88 always reminds me of Japanese police car numbers. We used to try to avoid them when we went out street racing late at night. It also reminds me of pianos, as full size pianos have 88 keys.........