Thank you Kats. Your kind words of support are very much appreciated. I too learned to refer to my cars as "S44", "S45", "S46" etc etc and I have to say that it makes a lot more sense to look at the build date rather than the somewhat abstract terminology of "Model Year" and "Title" etc when the point of the discussion is the specification of the car as it left the factory. When you look at all the available sources of information ( TSBs, sales brochures, parts lists and workshop manuals, as well as the extremely informative Nissan 'Service Shuho' documents issued in Japan ) it is fairly easy to see that a fair few of the rolling amendments / updates / improvements that were applied to the cars where phased in when convenient or prudent for the factory, rather than with thought to "Model Year" or any "Series". We can also see anomalous cars that are what we could call 'in-betweenies' - with details that don't tie-in with our pigeonholing. I believe that looking at the whole picture, rather than just one market or one model, can be educational for all of us. I don't see what is so controversial about that? Yes, it is indeed. But when I read quotes like that I sometimes wonder whether people forget that these cars were designed, engineered and built in Japan. Now, when you read that I can't be 100% sure that you think about this in the same way that I do. In my opinion, the Japanese story encompasses ALL of the stories. It is a Japanese product. Fred, I'd like nothing better. I consider that an open invitation, and it would be GREAT fun if it were in Japan. Two Mohammeds going to the mountain, so to speak :classic: Cheers, Alan T.