HS30-H

Hi Carl, OK - adding the table of Export and Production quantities from the MIKI Press book ( the original source was Nissan's Press Department ) to that page on zhome.com is an improvement of sorts ( good effort ) - but I still think the table above it is misleading when compared to the page title. As we know, the table of figures from the "Datsun 280ZX" book DOES NOT appear to include production or sales figures for Japanese domestic market models ( at least not for 1969, 1970 and 1971 ). Should such a list be sitting underneath a page title heading of "Z Car Production and Sales Reports"? I think it should be made clear that it includes ( or at least it appears that way ) only Export vehicles. That's not the whole story is it? Do you see where I'm coming from? Japanese domestic model S30-S, S30, PS30, PS30-SB, HS30-S, HS30, HS30-H, GS30 and etc etc etc are all 'Z' cars too. I think a website called "zhome" should have space for the whole Z family. That's what homes are for, no? Alan T.

Quoted from zhome.com: "The HS30 series cars (right hand drive models) started production in Jan. of 1970, and were given a separate chassis serial number series. While there seems to be some wide spread misunderstanding related to the year of manufacture of these cars, (which is not helped by Nissans own publications, which give broad ranges within which certain series of cars were produced). There is sufficient evidence to bear this out." End quote. "Started production" might mean one thing to one person, and one thing to another. Here's some evidence of Nissan's take on the matter:

The page heading on zhome.com reads: "Z Car Production and Sales Reports". However, when I look at the table and scan across to the column headed "others" ( this includes Japan I presume??? ) I see that the figure quoted for 1969 is "0", and the figure quoted for 1970 is "3". In my garage I have a Fairlady Z-L which was sold to the original owner ( in Japan ) in September 1970. I have the original sales receipt. The body number of this car 'S30-03761', so how does it relate to the figure of "3" on the published table? First of all, I would respectfully suggest that the page heading at zhome.com is completely misleading. If it does not accurately include the Japanese market models then it cannot be titled "Z Car Production and Sales Reports". Secondly, if it does not include the Japanese market models, then how can we trust the quoted figures for RHD Export market cars? 'HS30' VIN-prefixed models were sold in Japan from late 1971 onwards - so if no clear definition of the inclusion or exclusion of these models in the tables is made, how can they be trusted? I remind you of the word "production" used in the page title. I see no attachment. I have the book, so I know what tables you are referring to - but I don't think everybody else here does. EDIT: OK - you edited your post and attached the scan. Thank you. I must not be a "reasonable" person then. I'm troubled by the difference between 3 and 3761 for a start. It doesn't seem "slight" to me..... I see no caveats or caution notices regarding the information on production and sales presented at zhome.com. In my opinion, the figures are flawed and yet there is no acknowledgement that this might be the case. This is misleading. Changing the title of the page might be a good start. Alan T.