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Hitachi carbs, surely? Good to hear that it is running again, but you appear to have something of a mountain to climb. That roof to rear pillar joint is particularly worrying. Is this going to be a rolling resto or are you going to strip the shell completely at some point?

Yes, that's one I can definitely second the recommendation on. Well worth having. There are a lot of English-language picture captions ( although watch out for a couple of mistakes ) and some paragraphs in English. There was a special limited-edition version that has a nice slip cover and contained a partial English-language translation by my friend Brian Long, but these very rarely come up for sale. Alan T.

jmark, I agree. I don't think you can go wrong. This might sound trite, but I believe that anyone open-minded enough to purchase a book like this is worthy of encouragement. Good on you. I hope you will add a few more similar titles to your collection. Cheers, Alan T.

Ron, What kind of critique is that? Can you read Japanese? jmark, I have a copy of it and I'd say its worth every penny that you spent on it. In my opinion, it is a damned sight better than just "okay"........... In noted that you asked about the "history of the S30 race cars" - and it will give you an insight into this whole subject ( a World story rather than a local single-country story ). But bear in mind that it is a piece of literature written in Japanese, and the pictures should probably be considered a bonus rather than the main course. Unless you read Japanese there will be a lot in the book that is not readily accessible to you. The S30-series Z is ( I don't need to remind you ) a Japanese car that was raced all over the World, and if you have an interest in that fact then I say you will be happy with this book. 'The Stainless Steel Carrot' is also a good read - but you didn't ask about that, did you? Good luck, Alan T.

Very funny. Although Brock and Morton look a little old. Maybe this will serve as an excellent 'aide memoire' to Ron Carter and Brian Pilati......... And who the hell is Dan?

Just a little in-joke between myself and I. Hi Ben, You spotted most of the PZR-specific details that are visible from the photo. Lack of '432' emblem on the rear is - ironically considering above posts - due entirely to the fact that the 432-R was fitted with the rear spoiler. Seems they never really did figure out a place to put the '432' emblem on the rear.... The '432' emblems were still fitted to the bottom of the front wings ( fenders ) though. The stripe kit was fitted to this particular car - but not that many others it seems. The 'wood' rim steering wheel was fitted as standard equipment on the PZR, and was the same as those fitted to the other contemporary Japanese market models ( note: these steering wheels were different to the 'Export' models, as they had a deeper 'dish' ). Cheers, Alan T.

Actually, they are still getting it wrong - while you got a bullseye right here: CLARIFICATION: Fairlady Z432 ( PS30 ) = No Factory-fitted spoiler. Fairlady Z432-R ( PS30-SB ) = Factory-fitted spoiler. The ribbed rear spoiler, first seen on the 'PZR' model that was previewed by the Japanese press before the 1969 Tokyo Auto Show, was available as a special 'Option' on ALL the Japanese domestic model S30-series Z cars up to late 1971. Calling it a "432 spoiler" is incorrect. Calling it a "432-R spoiler" would be correct. Ain't nitpickin' fun! Alan T. ( Today's self-appointed Stickler-In-Chief ). Picture: First 'public' view of the Factory rear spoiler......

Underpants doesn't rhyme with France where I come from. Cheer up everybody! Carchaeology is supposed to be fun!............ :love:

"Infamy, infamy! They've all got it in fer me!....." :classic: Enrique, you've got an acute accent......... :knockedou

Poor S30-00002. Nobody remembers his name

At this point, your guess is as good as mine. I really don't know what we are looking at here, but I don't see anything suspicious about the actual VIN / body serial number stamping on the firewall. It doesn't look to have been altered, transferred from another vehicle ( no sign of it having been welded in in the localised area around it ) or doctored in the photo......... Weighing up the 'evidence', I see what appears to be a car about two years younger than its VIN / body serial number. There must be a simple explanation for it, and whatever happened seems to have happened a fair few years ago. So far I'm swaying more towards it being an identity switch ( the VIN number being attached to a later car: either the firewall panel from the early car - or part of it - being attached to a later body ) and most likely for *economic* reasons some time in the past. I still can't imagine that it was a number stamping mistake that made it outside the Factory quality control, past the dealer, and past many years of Shakken tests and regular services without being picked up on............

Looks like I wasn't too far out then, doesn't it?

To clarify the clarification: The BRE cars may have used what is known as the '432R' style rear spoiler, but the 432R did not use a BRE rear spoiler. If you see what I mean........... :classic:

I don't know about you, but I see "1 8 30". 30th August 1971 manufacturing date stamp for the mirror mount? What do others think? Car probably put together in September 1971? I'd be interested to see you cross-ref the other date stamps on the car to confirm / refine this. :classic:

I have to 'stick up' for the integrity of the marking / paint / sticker around the firewall VIN number stamping: This is quite common in Japan, and I have seen it many times. It is merely an aid to locating the positioning of the number, and could have been carried out by a servicing garage before taking the car for a 'Shakken' test, or any number of other official and non-official agencies. I've seen them hand-drawn and I've seen them stencilled. I've seen yellow paint, orangey-yellow stencils and reflective stickers. Even 'Glow-In-The-Dark' paint and Tipp-Ex. I don't think there's anything unusual or suspicious about the box around the number........ Lets not lose sight of the rabbit here. In my opinion - for what it is worth - the only thing making us believe this car is 'pre-production' / extremely early production is the VIN / serial number itself. The rest of the car looks much later in date than the VIN / serial number would make us imagine it should be. The car even shows evidence of a spot of customisation ( the slat grille - which is an 'Export' market item ) which should serve to remind us that this car's life didn't begin the day we met it.............. Edit: By way of reference / comparison / light-hearted relief, I am posting the following photo. Taken from the very first Factory Workshop manual for the Japanese market cars, and published in 1969:

71ZZZZZ, The colour samples in the Japanese sales brochures are both tiny and actually nothing like the colours they are supposed to represent! I honestly don't think there's much point in me re-scanning and posting a close-up, as it will still be misleading....... Best reference for the colours on our cars is that compiled by our fellow classiczcars.com member Michael Perdue ( mperdue ) here: mperdue's paint codes data Good luck, Alan T.

Just to clarify; The Overfenders on the car could indeed be genuine "Factory" Nissan items and the shape looks correct in the details. However, let there be no mistake - the 1971 Fairlady Z-L model DID NOT leave the Factory with Overfenders. In most cases, they were fitted several years after the car was new. Main reason for this was that the fitment of the Overfenders technically took the car up into the next vehicle taxation bracket ( due to the extra width ) and this would have been more expensive. They would also be *technically* illegal in Japan ( as a non-standard item for that model ), although the owner may have got away with it if he didn't meet any trouble-making traffic Police officers......

Could be 918 Orange, but it might also be 110 Red that has faded over time. Hard to tell from the pics. I think the greeny beige colour is probably primer showing through ( maybe high-build or sealing primer? ) and the faded coral pink top surface is exactly what happens to certain reds and oranges after many years of neglect in STRONG sunlight. Personally speaking, I love it........... You might want to take a large pinch of salt when hearing from certain 'sources'. Bear in mind that there is a lot of bad information in magazines, books and yes - the internet - about these Japanese market models. I think your 'source' was almost certainly referring to the Fairlady 240ZG ( 'HS30-H' model ) - which was a low-volume homologation special produced for the Japanese home market only. Take a look at my Gallery on this site for pictures of a real one.

Az-Fairlady, I'm concerned that you are still not clear about what was standard Factory equipment for your car and what was not....... As your car appears to be a 1971 Fairlady Z-L ( 'S30' model of the S30 series ) it would have had the following items from your above list as standard equipment when it left the Factory: *Car Stereo. *Clock with stop watch. *Reclining seat device. *Passing light. *Rubber Bumper ( the rubber trim on the bumpers ). *Rear glass with electric heater. *Footrest ( Assistant ). Other items you have noted in your list quoted above could have been specified as options when the car was ordered from the dealer, or could have been added later.

That's correct for the manufacturing period of your car. Only the earliest Factory rear spoilers had the reinforcement ribs. Differences are detailed in the two 'Home Market Options' threads I linked in my previous post, as far as I recall. Good luck, Alan T.

Az-Fairlady, Welcome to the site. I think you'll get more information here than on zcar.com ( as you have probably already noticed ). Giving an exact manufacturing date for this type of car is not quite as easy as the US-market models. For one thing, Japanese market models didn't have any 'official' notification of build date attached to the car...... However, dating the car is relatively easy once you know where to look and what to look for - and is also fun ( if you are that way inclined ). We have covered the topic here in previous threads, which are well worth reading. I recommend this one for starters: Kats' dating thread Prising out your Tachometer and Speedometer to look for date stamps might not be all that attractive to you at this time, but there are much easier places to see date stamps. One of the most reliable places are the manufacturer labels on the seat belts. Take a look at yours and see what they say. One of my favourites is the base for the interior rear-view mirror; Simply pop the mirror off its attachment ( that's a crash safety feature ) and see if you can read the white date stamp on the mount that is left attached to the header. Body serial numbers for 'S30' Fairlady Z-L and 'S30-S' Fairlady Z models ( yours appears to be a Z-L, as v12horse has pointed out to you ) in the 1971 manufacturing year started with S30-04050 and finished with S30-08328. At a rough guess I think yours will most likely have been manufactured between May and July of 1971. I'm sceptical about the low mileage ( kilos ). I think it has been around the clock at least once from the looks of it. Nothing wrong with that. One last point I would make is that your car never left the Factory with those Overfenders attached. They would have been added later, either as genuine Sports Option parts or generic copies. Can I recommend some other threads that will be of interest?: http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16660 http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14433 http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14422 Cheers, Alan T.

Sean, The engine info is in this thread already.... R380 ( I ) & R380-II = GR8 engine R381 ( temporary engine ) = Dean Moon-prepped SB Chevrolet V8 R381 ( finally perfected ) = Nissan GRX V12 R382 = Nissan GRX V12 R383 = Nissan GRX V12 A fair amount of pics and info in this thread : Thread with Nissan R380 sports racer info Note: Nissan raced the R380-series sports prototypes in Japan, Australia, S. America and South Africa, but never on mainland USA. If you need any more specific info, let me know. I might have what you need.

Too right! ( err, left ). Not to turn this into a political history discussion, but the World needed a few "this machine kills fascists" stickers on guitars when Woody was around. Ooh. Intriguing. I'll be waiting by the door. What delights lay within, I wonder? The Royal Mail and FedEx are in my bad books, so Global Express had better not mess it up or else. I owe you a package in return, of course. Any ideas how to get a Nissan 8-track player over to the USA without it being mistaken for a WMD? :tapemouth

Nee naw nee naw nee naw, screeech. Mr 26th-Z, the Nitpick Police are placing you under arrest. Love it or hate it, that song was written by Arlo's dad. One of the greatest figures in American cultural history - and a secret hero of mine - Woody Guthrie. Totally inappropriate for the Z33 commercial I reckon. A different soundtrack would transform the ad. OK, we are letting you off with a stern caution this time. Just be more careful in future.