Everything posted by HS30-H
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Early Fairlady Z
Stalled. I wanted to have them low pressure die cast like the originals were, but the cost of tooling here in the UK was just too prohibitive. I believe I reported the situation on the FLZ Facebook group. Looks like Hung Vu is coming up with the goods though, so you should be able to get a pair one way or the other.
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Why Webers in first S20 432R Factory Racer?
The above being road car prototypes, whereas you first post concerns works race cars. I don't know what conclusions you wish to draw from it, considering that carburettors are basically precision measuring devices which deliver what a given engine needs. Unless you know engine spec/state of tune it's hard to extrapolate anything from it. There will be differences in driveability due to design (apparently the S20 seems to 'prefer' the accelerator pump design of the Weber DCOE vs the Solex patent diaphragm, whereas the opposite is true of the L-gata) but I think it would be silly to say that an engine has "more HP" with one than the other. It's clearly more complicated than that. Of course, the Murayama works team GT-Rs started out with Webers (the Prince engineers had been using Webers for a good while and were used to them) but soon switched to sliding throttle mechanical injection systems, which suited the kind of racing they were taking part in. They were reluctant to fit these systems -and the engine internals which went with the upgrade - to the works 432-Rs (part of that internal Prince vs Nissan struggle) so there was a period when the works GT-Rs were running fuel injection whilst the 432-Rs were still on Webers. The works 432-Rs were racing on fuel injection by May 1970.
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Earliest 4 Blade Nylon Engine Fans
You might describe it as 'evolution', but it's a bit more jumbled up than that. And I would tend to look at other contemporary L-gata equipped models for clues too. Looking only at Zs is very likely to miss some clues... Put simply, I see models with aircon needing multi-blade fans. Factory parts lists show simpler fans for non-aircon models vs multi blade for aircon and - possibly - hotter climate. The one tends to go with the other. I would imagine the multi-blade nylon fans as being easier to make/cheaper than the multi-blade steel fans once the tooling had been manufactured.
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Why Webers in first S20 432R Factory Racer?
You're wading into the very deep waters of Murayama vs Oppama here. I hope you've got your water wings on...
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Datsun-240z Vs Fairlady-z432
You got them! Well done! I think it is most likely that they are indeed genuine Murayama factory works team parts, never intended to be sold to the general public. Original cost of production would have been very high, but not a problem for a works team. Compression ratio might be a problem for a street car. They are very high intrusion crown pistons and compression ratio would have been very high on the works cars. You will need to work it out with a dummy build.
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Possible trip to Japan (Tokyo) - Suggestions?
For Kyoto, I can heartily recommend the MK Taxis tour service: https://www.mktaxi-japan.com/ I've been to Kyoto many times, but a few years ago a friend sent a group of four of us on a day-long tour with an MK driver (waiting patiently for us while we explored each venue, and while we had lunch/tea breaks) and it was certainly the best way to cover a whole lot of bases without rushing. It might sound cheesy, and normally I'd prefer to make my own way around, but our driver knew just how to handle it and made it a great day. Best day I've had in Kyoto, and my Japanese in-laws agreed. I would recommend a boat ride on the Hozugawa river too. If the timing is right you might even be able to see the Geiko entertaining their guests on the Gion tea house balconies, which you can't see from the street side...
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260z and 280z same Birthday
You are very likely to be told that the last '260' was made in 1978, so you might need to refine your terminology... And "Birthday"? Birth month & year, shirley?
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Picked up a couple of hard to find parts recently
17033-E4200 is the stock 432/432-R pump mount bracket. Nice find! I have one on my 432-R replica. Does it have the original type Jidosha Kiki KK pump too?
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What distributor is this?
Hitachi D606-52 was stock European/UK market HS30/HLS30 'Datsun 240Z' distributor. Has 'fast' advance curve, hence sold as 'performance' distributor by Datsun Competition in USA.
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Trying to get my 1973 Fairlady (RHD) back on the road
1972 Fairlady Z-L would have the above 'Fairlady Z' script emblems at the bottom of both front fenders and one on the RH side of the rear hatch, mounted at an angle... ...and underneath the 'Fairlady Z' script on the rear hatch, mounted horizontally, the 'NISSAN' emblem. However, the mounting of a rear spoiler interfered with the mounting positions of the hatch emblems. Bonnet/Hood emblem was the 'Z' script version, on the left above. Rear quarter emblems for 1972 were the vented type 'Z' script version, exactly the same as north American market type of the same year - so you should have no trouble locating a good pair.
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Datsun-240z Vs Fairlady-z432
I heartily recommend 'Japanese Aero-Engines 1910-1945' by Mike Goodwin and Peter Starkings, published by MMP Books, as the best English language reference book on the subject.
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Guess what these are and from what engine?
I'll watch you from the clubhouse bar whilst you gradually work your way around the golf course backwards. No idea how you're going to hole those putts, but still... Anyone who has an interest in the history of Japanese aviation will (hopefully) know about the myriad licensing agreements that the growing Japanese manufacturers took out with American, British, French, Italian and German companies in the first half of the 20th Century. Big topic. Things start getting a little fragile when you try to carry cause and effect through to the post-war years, as a whole new ball game started. New business relationships and licensing structures needed to be built up, and what had been Japan's aircraft manufacturing industry had to find new things to make and sell. I would say a pre-war and wartime relationship between a German company and a Japanese company was a bit of a stretch to prove much about Nissan's L-gata engine design details, and there's still the fact that Nissan and Prince were competing companies when the Nissan L-gata and Prince G7 engines debuted, so a fragile thread between PMC and MB still doesn't bridge that gap. Isn't it just more likely that Nissan took elements of the (already old) MB OHC layout and adapted them to suit? There's not much in the way of engine design that hasn't been cribbed/copied/adapted over the years and, once seen, good design and engineering is always going to influence what follows it. It's interesting and worthy of discussion, but if it feeds the "it's a Mercedes engine!" type mindset then we may as well file it with the D!ck Avery "I designed the 240Z" stuff. At some point it starts being disrespectful to the very good engineers and designers who actually were responsible for the cars we love.
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Hemmings acknowledges Z 50th
From the Hemmings article: From Carl Beck in the comments section: Some relevant dates: *October 18th 1969 - First 'Press Preview' event held at Nissan's Ginza, Tokyo HQ showroom to introduce the S30-series Z range to the invited press. *October 24th 1969 - Start of the Tokyo Motor Show, where the S30-series Z range was introduced to the general public for the first time. More than 1.5 million members of the public visited the show over the next two weeks. *November 5th 1969 - First 'Test Drive' day, for the Japanese press to actually get hold of the cars and drive them. The results were seen in many of the November and December 1969, and January 1970 Japanese weeklies and monthlies. So Nissan's 'Press Preview' in Japan happened two calendar days before this "International Introduction" to the Press at the Pierre Hotel in New York on 24th October, and the Tokyo Motor Show opened to the general public two calendar days (less the 14 hours time difference) after that. Where does the "two weeks later" come from? Both 'Press' and 'Public' debuts of the new S30-series Z range - which included the 'Datsun 240Z' - took place in Japan.
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Datsun-240z Vs Fairlady-z432
I have looked at a lot of S20 engines over the years now, and I don't think I have ever seen a head casting in-use that had not received some detailing/'blueprinting' attention inside the port castings. I believe your NOS head is untouched in the ports because it never reached the stage where it was prepped before fitting to a working engine. I'm pretty sure that the S20 engine in my 432-R replica (itself a very early 432-type S20 engine) was never taken apart until I stripped it to rebuild it. Both the inlet and exhaust port areas had been hand finished, with the dividing wall between the valves 'knife-edged'. Not the best photo, but you get the idea: Here's another K3 head: And for comparison, a super rare works race K3R head:
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Datsun-240z Vs Fairlady-z432
Thank you for this Kats. I share your admiration for Nakagawa san and his colleagues. The father of one of our family friends worked with Nakagawa san at Nakajima Hikoki, working on those Sakae and Homare aero engines, and I was lucky enough to meet him and talk to him about his working life. Fascinating. Here's a photo of Nakagawa san and some of his senior engineering staff from Prince Motor Co. pictured at Fuji Speedway in the early 1960s. A slightly unlikely looking group perhaps, but some serious talent here. Nakagawa san is in the dark suit. That's Dr Shinichiro Sakurai - a key figure for both Prince and Nissan - on the far right:
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Hemmings acknowledges Z 50th
Who needs George Carlin when we there's plenty of comedy on zhome.com (try to stifle your giggles when you read "Christ Craft" instead of 'Chris-Craft': http://zhome.com/History/Ford/Ford.htm Who needs enemies when the Z's advocates are so ready to undermine it and the people who were responsible for creating it? There's plenty of other D!ck Avery-related bullshine on the 'net if you are motivated to seek it out. Flat Earth Society stuff.
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Kanji found when removing a dash
You're in luck. That's not a Kanji character. It is indeed a - very nice - capital letter 'B'.
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Kanji found when removing a dash
'Tokyo' Looks to have been written fast and loose...
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Rare Step Lights
For me? I need people to stop me from buying stuff, not enablers...
- Rare Step Lights
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Rare Step Lights
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Rare Step Lights
- Kanji found when removing a dash
Couple of recent examples I spotted here in the UK, on original UK market HS30U 'Datsun 240Z' dashes: 'ENG' of course = England.- Kanji found when removing a dash
As pointed out on FB, translating a single Kanji like this is to somewhat miss the point. It reads as 'Ryo', which does translate as 'Dormitory'/'Dorm' in English, but is also a male given name in Japanese (on FB I cited Japanese pro golfer Ishikawa Ryo as an example) so it could very easily have been written by somebody called Ryo or for somebody called Ryo.- KONI Sports for Classic Z's
Here's an old set of Made in Holland KONI conversion inserts for UK/European market '240Z' models which I used to own: - Kanji found when removing a dash
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