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Despite what MSA's marketing department might want you to think, there is no such thing as a "432 specific" rear spoiler. The very first spoiler for the S30-series Z range was specific ( as factory stock fitment ) to the PS30-SB 'Fairlady Z432-R'. This design - with its two reinforcing ribs ( which collected water between them.... ) was very distinctive. The PS30 'Fairlady Z432' did not have this rear spoiler as stock equipment, but it was an extra cost option. The very same spoiler was also offered as an extra cost option on the other Fairlady Z models ( S30-S 'Fairlady Z' and S30 'Fairlady Z-L' ) which were sold during the same period. This rear spoiler was superseded by another - similar - design, but this time without the water-gathering ribs. They too had the flat sections on the rear surface on which the emblems could be mounted. This design of spoiler was used on UK and European mainland market 240Z models as stock factory fitment. The ribbed design was not. The rear spoiler on the yellow Nissan GB press car in the photos in the original post is the second, non ribbed, stock UK & European market type. Trust me. I know what I'm talking about.

Actually, the very first UK cars didn't have them. They were used on almost all subsequent UK market 240Z and 260Zs though.

Groundhog Day ( again.... ). The UK market brochure used Nissan Europe-supplied images because Datsun UK ( a concession ) was too mean to pay for their own RHD-specific studio shots. UK market cars didn't have the "Bumperettes" as stock equipment, but they were available as an extra-cost option. The car in the brochure looks how the yellow car in the OP is supposed to look. ie it has the correct ( metal ) fender extensions and front valance, and the correct ( urethane ) front spoiler / air dam. It also has the front indicator units mounted on the top of the bumper to comply with the European lighting height regulations ( unlike the Nissan GB press car ) and even the front fender / wing indicator repeater lenses are mounted correctly...

That's the same car as in the original post, complete with one-piece aftermarket spoiler / valance / fender extensions. It's not stock. It's just trying to look like the stock UK market parts.

The yellow car in question belongs to Nissan Motors Great Britain, and is part of their press fleet. It's a very well known car over here. The front spoiler is something of a trompe l'oeil, as it is replicating the look of the stock UK market front spoiler but is actually made from FRP. In fact, the front spoiler, lower fender extensions and centre panel are all moulded in one piece, and it was painted to look like the stock factory appearance. It's an aftermarket item, and - I'm told - it was used as a suitable original front spoiler in good condition could not be found at the time of restoration. The rear spoiler on the car is a stock UK market factory item, and is nothing to do with the 432. Notice that the lenses on the front indicator repeaters ( on the front wings / fenders ) are mounted upside down? When Nissan GB displayed the car at the Goodwood Revival Meeting some years ago, my KPGC10 was displayed alongside it. We were tempted to correct the indicator lenses ourselves but never got around to it. They are still like it to this day.....

I'll weigh in with a negative: This is - no other word for it - just garbage. Another slap in the face for the ( quite large ) team of people who did style, design, engineer, R&D and produce the S30-series Z family.

Bart, You might be well advised to try looking a little closer to home...

I've still got the one I offered to you. You don't want that one...?

No, the FS5C71-A should fit OK in place of an FS4W71-A, if that is what you have in your car. Shifter position should be OK in the trans tunnel and console, and the crossmember should work. Only thing you will have to address ( depending on your car ) is the type of propshaft you need. It will depend on diff position ( early 'forward' or late 'rearward' ) and whether anyone has changed it in the past. The correct - early - propshaft for the FS5C71-A can be quite hard to find. Has the guy who sold you the transmission not got one..?

There were two different 5-speed transmissions fitted to 'Euro' market 240Zs, depending on the date of manufacture. First cars had the FS5C-71A, but later cars had the FS5C-71B. Which one will be a more suitable and 'period correct' bolt-in fitment for your particular car would depend on the car's production date. Bear in mind that the actual transmission is only one part of this. Trying to put the 'wrong' transmission in a car might give you difficulty with the hole in the trans tunnel, the console, the shifter itself, as well as the crossmember and the prop shaft. You also need to consider diff location ( early or late type ) for the prop shaft, and the diff ratio. What year / month / original market is your 240Z?

OK. Thanks Jerry.

Hi Jerry, There were several different types of narrow-belt crank pulleys. Here's a photo of one type ( attached ). There was also one large diameter version like this, but with no holes. There were some that were small diameter too. The narrow-belt pulleys had to be used as a set, so the original crank pulley that went with the Alternator pulley and Water Pump pulley in your photos would have been of the narrow-belt type too. Not stock. Would be great if you could find it. Cheers, Alan T.

Hi Jerry, Are there two water pump pulleys? I see what appears to be a stock W/P pulley, and also the ( smaller ) Competition W/P pulley with the holes in ( that's one of the ones I'm looking for ) and a water pump pulley spacer ( small dia. with the four slots ). Other item is the ( small dia. ) Alternator pulley. No crank pulley? Cheers, Alan T.

Jerry, If you want to sell the 3pc pulley set, I'd be very happy to buy them from you.

And, by the way: 1981 JDM Nissan 280z Datsun Fairlady Hood Fenders Front End Asembly | eBay and: 1981 280Z fairlady (RHD) L28 Japan import. So.cal 91316 ($1500) - Cars for Sale - HybridZ

It's for the whole run of the Japanese domestic market S130-series Z variants. If the "VIN" ( 'Katashiki' prefix + body serial number combination ) of the car is indeed 'HGS130' then I would have thought it was likely that it was a Fairlady 280Z-T 2/2 or Fairlady 280Z-L 2/2. Both had the L28E engine ( injection, non turbo ) as stock equipment, so if it's got a turbo on it I'd guess that it's a later addition.

Japanese market S130-series Z models: *'S130-S' Fairlady Z ( L20E engine ) 2-seater *'S130-J' Fairlady Z-T ( L20E engine ) 2-seater *'S130' Fairlady Z-L ( L20E engine ) 2-seater *'HS130-J' Fairlady 280Z-T ( L28E engine ) 2-seater *'HS130' Fairlady 280Z-L ( L28E engine ) 2-seater *'S130-ST' Fairlady Z Turbo ( L20ET engine ) 2-seater *'S130-JTB' Fairlady Z-T Turbo ( L20ET engine ) 2-seater *'S130-T' Fairlady Z-L Turbo ( L20ET engine ) 2-seater *'GS130-S' Fairlady Z 2by2 ( L20E engine ) *'GS130-J' Fairlady Z-T 2by2 ( L20E engine ) *'GS130' Fairlady Z-L 2by2 ( L20E engine ) *'HGS130-J' Fairlady 280Z-T 2by2 ( L28E engine ) *'HGS130' Fairlady 280Z-L 2by2 ( L28E engine ) *'KGS130-J' Fairlady Z T-Bar Roof 2by2 ( L20E engine ) *'KS130-J' Fairlady Z T-Bar Roof ( L20E engine ) 2-seater *'KHGS130-JBC' Fairlady 280Z T-Bar Roof 2by2 ( L28E engine ) *'KHS130-JBC' Fairlady 280Z T-Bar Roof ( L28E engine ) 2-seater *'KGS130-JTB' Fairlady Z T-Bar Roof Turbo 2by2 ( L20ET engine ) *'KS130-JTB' Fairlady Z T-Bar Roof Turbo ( L20ET engine ) 2-seater *'GS130-ST' Fairlady Z Turbo 2by2 ( L20ET engine ) *'GS130-JTB' Fairlady Z-T Turbo 2by2 ( L20ET engine ) *'GS130-T' Fairlady Z-L Turbo 2by2 ( L20ET engine )

They look 'Italianate' to me too, but they also look like a variation on the Dunlop 'Formula' D-series wheels, as seen on many Triumphs of the period as well as the Reliant Scimitar: Canley Classics - Triumph Museum: Dunlop Wheels Should have some casting marks / identification on the back somewhere. You have taken one off to have a look, haven't you?

Yes, I'm back. But very busy at the moment.....

I don't know why not. My local automotive paint supplier can cross-match across BS, Glidden and RAL ( the European Standard ) paint codes, as well as custom mix and match to sample.

Not at all. I think it was perfectly valid. It's something we have discussed many times in the past. You managed to find this thread a couple of months after the last reply, didn't you? Nothing 'ironic' about it at all. If I have the answer I'll usually give it. Stop complaining. Spraying a Nissan engine block in a GM colour might be ironic, though...

For the sake of accuracy, it's cast, not forged.

No need to wait for me to turn up. Anybody else with an ounce of sense would do the job.... There were some markets where the engine number wasn't stamped into the engine bay plate at all. And I'm afraid it still grates to see people talking about 'Datsun doing this' and 'Datsun doing that'. Datsun never did anything, because Datsun was just a badge attached to some of the cars. It was Nissan that was doing the doing... Tomohawk: The numerical part of the engine number would only match the numerical part of the chassis number by chance, if ever.