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Yes, I'm back. But very busy at the moment.....

I don't know why not. My local automotive paint supplier can cross-match across BS, Glidden and RAL ( the European Standard ) paint codes, as well as custom mix and match to sample.

Not at all. I think it was perfectly valid. It's something we have discussed many times in the past. You managed to find this thread a couple of months after the last reply, didn't you? Nothing 'ironic' about it at all. If I have the answer I'll usually give it. Stop complaining. Spraying a Nissan engine block in a GM colour might be ironic, though...

For the sake of accuracy, it's cast, not forged.

No need to wait for me to turn up. Anybody else with an ounce of sense would do the job.... There were some markets where the engine number wasn't stamped into the engine bay plate at all. And I'm afraid it still grates to see people talking about 'Datsun doing this' and 'Datsun doing that'. Datsun never did anything, because Datsun was just a badge attached to some of the cars. It was Nissan that was doing the doing... Tomohawk: The numerical part of the engine number would only match the numerical part of the chassis number by chance, if ever.

Is this an early April Fool joke, or have we all fallen into some parallel universe where Nissan's engine numbers match their chassis numbers ( huh? ) and people think that L24, L26 and L28 engines were only ever fitted to Zs, and only to north American market cars at that...? I think I might need to go and lay down in a darkened room for a while.....

OK, I managed to find my box of used carbs, and I selected a single 40DCOE-18 that might be a good candidate. The manufacturing date is a little later than yours ( mine is no.27752 ) so it's not really a perfect match. However, theoretically any early 40DCOE-18 should match up with another early 40DCOE-18 as far as circuits and internals etc, so it should work. I'm away in Japan for a couple of weeks from tomorrow, so can't really do anything about this until I come back. Hope you can wait....

I might be able to help you. I have several vintage 40DCOE-18s 'spare'. One of them might be a close enough match to the two you have. Tell me what the individual numbers on the covers are ( the 'No' on the pad underneath the 'Tipo' line ) and I'll see if I've got one that's near.

Any "rally package" would have been installed by a private owner or shop, as Nissan never sold any "rally package" that included such parts and only made rally cars for its own factory use. They never sold such to the general public. It would be a logical place to put a Halda Tripmaster or other proprietary distance-measuring meters and a stopwatch setup, for "rally" use. However, it might also have been a mounting / blanking plate for a grab handle ( which I've seen before ). Unless there is other tell-tale evidence of rally / trials use, they may just have been the affectations and whims of a former owner.

Looks like a late S31 extra cost option ( 1976/7/8 ): B9300-N4603 STEREO KIT - CASSETTE - W/AM-FM MPX HITACHI.

In that case, please clearly label it as such. If you leave it as it is, people will do what they always do, and think that the "American" market is the only story.

EuroDat, How are you going to address the fact that there was no simple, linear time-line style breakdown for the engines fitted in different models and in different markets? You're going to need to think about this again before you design your layout. I'm disappointed to see you ignoring the Japanese market models of a Japanese car ( you don't seem to have even thought of them...? ) but it's even more disappointing to see somebody from the Netherlands ignore the European market versions too ( look at your '260Z' data.... ). It's a big task you're taking on, and hats off to you for trying, but it's got to be RIGHT or there's no point. There are already more inaccurate data sources out there than you can shake a stick at, and we don't need any more poisoned wells. Sorry to be harsh, but I think it needs to be said.

Except that it completely ignores the Japanese market L20A and L20AE-engined models. Speechless.....

Look again. The emblems say 'Fairlady 240Z'. Correct factory badging for L24-engined Fairlady 240Z, Fairlady 240Z-L or Fairlady 240ZG.

Do you guys ever use the SEARCH function? We've discussed all this many times before. The original colour had its roots in the Austin-Nissan tie up of the 1950s. The colour is still listed on the 'British Standard' database as B.S. 18C39, with HMG ( Her Majesty's Government ) Glidden number GL31557, and Glidden number name 'Dolphin Blue'. I think a Netherlands-based paint supplier should be able to cross-reference those codes.

You need to be more careful about how you write the transmission codes out. You meant to write FS5W71B and FS5W71C. F5W71B and F5W71C are something else entirely....

To be fair, historically the situation was probably pretty much the same outside the US too. However, we've spent lot of time on this forum over the years discussing this very topic and these very terms. It would be nice to think that some of that would have rubbed off, and that people would not be quite so incredulous to hear that an HLS30-prefixed 'Datsun 240Z' might have come from the factory with an FS5C71-A trans and 3.9:1 diff as standard equipment somewhere in the world ( "impossibly rare"....? ). After all, as yourself and 26th-Z have shown, it's all in the factory manuals and service bulletins..... On the subject of suffixes, spare a thought for the Japanese market. In October 1971, there were more prefixes and suffixes attached to the 'S30' series code than you could shake a stick at:

I don't want to sound rude, but this is pretty basic stuff we're talking about here.... The north American market 'Datsun 240Z' didn't have a 'U' in its VIN prefix, but it had the 'U' suffix in its factory model variant code. In Japan they called it the 'Katashiki'. For the 'U' suffixed models, there were extra sub-variants depending upon the sales destination. The ful codes were not affixed to the car, and are not to be confused with the full VIN number / body serial number / 'Shatai Bango'. The RHD export 'HS30U' models also didn't have that 'U' in their VIN / body numbers, but it was there in the 'Katashiki' and that's why Haynes - following the example of the factory workshop manuals - put it in their manuals. The 'HLS301' was the LHD export market 'Datsun 240Z' which was manufactured specifically for the mainland European market. It had the FS5C71-A 5-speed transmission as standard equipment ( as did the 'HS30U' ). It was only the north American market cars that didn't get a 5-speed trans as standard equipment. Having said all that, GeoJoe's car - if it's a north American market model - would almost certainly not have been equipped with a 5-speed trans when it left the factory.

The Haynes manual is correct*. You guys are just not understanding the differences between an HLS30U and an HLS301 ( or an HS30U ). *Shocking, but true in this case.....