Thanks, mate. I believe things the same as you, but I'm sure these people will probably "put pressure" on me, maybe even threaten with an expulsion, or black-balling (most likely) to get their way. It's been like that since I started this web site thing. S0-and-so doeasn't like this or that, so they put pressure on me to change things. Some reasonable, some not. Things like "no newsletter." How do other people learn about your club if they can't see what you're club does (where you go, club events). Also "no names" Like 'Tom L.' is inappropriate, and unprofessional because of indetity theft , but I don't believe I've given away any personal details about anybody. In fact, I feel lucky that certain relevant members allowed me to put an email link in there. I even protected these people by hiding email addresses, putting them in submission forms! This all goes back to my theory on the 3 typical vices of the "American citiizen": 1 -- Vanity 2 -- GREED 3 -- Fear In that order. If you don't assert yourself in a massive way in this country, you stepped on all over. It's even worse for people that are disabled, like I am. Apparewntly, I need to be "told" everything that I need to do, how to do it, and when. Then somebody else steps in to do it for me?? I should have studied law in stead of Internet tech. Cheers,