I think comparing a 240Z to a mid-80's 911 is comparing apples to oranges. As Arne said, there's a 14 year difference in technology, not to mention the different driving experence of a front vs. rear engine car. Where I diverge from someof you is that I don't really like the way earlier, (Pre-90's), Porsche's drive. I don't find the slightly side-ways pedal position to be comfortable. I do love their raw power, but found while auto-crossing one I didn't like their somewhat sudden transition into oversteer. I was able to control it, but it was a bit disconcerting. The 70's to very early 80's 911's can make a novice driver look pretty good, right up to the point they swap ends... My 240Z's handling seems much more linear and predicable, though it's probably not as fast because of the Porsche's higher HP. And to be fair, I recently drove a late 90's Porsche, and boy what a difference! Powerful, smooth and predicable. Very nice car!