gogriz91

I'm a first gen fanatic and believe the others are just sources of parts for my first gen car. I wish Nissan had made the 350 more retro to the 240 than the design they came up with.

Post some pics, and welcome.

I hear you jayru, I'm entertaining the idea of selling the Z and buying a type 2 split window VW bus with the westfalia camper set-up. Can't figure out why but the thought keeps crossing my mind.

Yeah Nigel but, look at all th Mini-Coopers you have access to. My father in law would love to have one of those in the garage.

Never pass up an opportunity to keep your mouth shut.

Well outstanding, another one is on the road again!

If you've spent any tim ein or around the military, you'll enjoy these. If you've spent any time on staff in the military, you probably wrote one. Collected Actual Quotes from US Military Staff Officers Worldwide: "Our days are spent trying to get some poor, unsuspecting third world country to pony up to spending a year in a sweltering desert, full of pissed off Arabs who would rather shave the back of their legs with a cheese grater than submit to foreign occupation by a country for whom they have nothing but contempt." LTC (JS) on the joys of coalition building "OSD will continue to drive this cart into the ground long after the wheels have been sold on E-bay." MAJ (JS) on the progress of FIF "Please don't laugh. This is my job." Maj (EUCOM) from Protocol, explaining in great detail the approved procedures for dropping off VIPs "If we wait until the last minute to do it, it'll only take a minute." MAJ (EUCOM) "The only reason that anything ever gets done is because there are pockets of competence in every command. The key is to find them...and then exploit the hell out of 'em." CDR (CENTCOM) "Between us girls, would it help to clarify the issue if you knew that Hungary is land-locked?" CDR to MAJ (EUCOM) on why a deployment from Hungary is likely to proceed by air vice sea "We are condemned men who are chained and will row in place until we rot." LtCol (CENTCOM) on life at his Command "Right now we're pretty much the ham in a bad ham sandwich..." GO/FO (EUCOM) "So, what do you wanna do?"..."I dunno, what do YOU wanna do?"..."I dunno, what do YOU wanna do?," etc. COL (DIA) describing the way OUSD(S) develops and implements their strategies "Let's face it: Africa sucks..." DOS representative (Bureau of African Affairs) at a conference on Africa "One of the secrets to maintaining my positive attitude in this job is this: I complete no tasker before its time..." MAJ (EUCOM) "I'll be right back. I have to go pound my nuts flat..." Lt Col (EUCOM) after being assigned a difficult tasker "I guess this is the wrong power cord for the computer, huh?" LtCol (EUCOM) after the smoke cleared from plugging his 110V computer into a 220V outlet "OK, this is too stupid for words." LTC (JS) "When you get right up to the line that you're not supposed to cross, the only person in front of you will be me!" CDR (CENTCOM) on his view of the value of being politically correct in today's military "There's nothing wrong with crossing that line a little bit, it's jumping over it buck naked that will probably get you in trouble..." Lt Col (EUCOM) responding to the above "I may be slow, but I do poor work..." MAJ (USAREUR) "Great! What we really need are some more 0-5s around here..." MAJ (EUCOM) on the release of the list of 0-5 promotables "Don't ever be the first...don't ever be the last...and don't ever volunteer to do anything...." CDR (EUCOM) relating an ancient Navy truism "Hey, somebody should really do that..." CDR (CENTCOM) on the CENTCOM tasking process "Cynicism is the smoke that rises from the ashes of burned out dreams." Maj (CENTCOM) on the daily thrashings delivered to AOs at his Command "WE are the reason that Rumsfeld hates us..." LTC (EUCOM) doing some standard, Army self-flagellation "South of the Alps and East of the Adriatic, paranoia is considered mental equilibrium..." "The chance of success in these talks is the same as the number of "R's" in "fat chance..."" GS-15 (SHAPE) "His knowledge on that topic is only power point deep..." MAJ (JS) "We have no position on that issue. In fact, your position IS our position. Could you tell us what our position is?" CDR (TRANSCOM) at a policy SVTC "Ya know, in this Command, if the world were supposed to end tomorrow, it would still happen behind schedule." CWO4 (ret) (EUCOM) "Even if Al-Qaeda nuked this place, the Chief of Staff would approve a 4-star visitor the very next day!" GS-12 (EUCOM) "Never pet a burning dog." LTC (Tennessee National Guard) "It's basically announcing to the world that I've completely given up." LT (USN F-14 squadron) on his initial feelings behind the wheel of his brand new minivan "A staff action is like getting an out of state check, countersigned by a fraud on a phony ID: some of the time it clears, but most of the time, you're screwed." Lt Col (USAF) "I need intelligence, not information." Maj (EUCOM) "Ah, the joys of Paris: a unique chance to swill warm wine and be mesmerized by the dank ambrosia of unkempt armpits..." LCDR (NAVEUR) "'Status quo,' as you know, is Latin for 'the mess we're in...'" Attributed to former President Ronald Reagan "We are now past the good idea cutoff point..." MAJ (JS) on the fact that somebody always tries to "fine tune" a COA with more "good ideas" "Who are you talking to? ...Hang up the phone!" Lt Col mentoring MAJ (EUCOM) on how to stay in his own lane... "The hardest thing about having a third child is switching from 1-on-1 to a zone defense." MAJ (EUCOM) "Nobody ever said you had to be smart to make 0-6." Col (EUCOM) "I haven't complied with a darn thing and nothing bad has happened to me yet." "Whatever happened to good old-fashioned military leadership? Just task the first /two people you see." "The first question I ask myself when tasked to do something that's not obviously and overwhelmingly in my own best interest is, 'Exactly what happens if I don't do it?'" "Accuracy and attention to detail take a certain amount of time." "No need to tip our hand as to how responsive we can be." CDR (EUCOM) in a passdown to his replacement "I seem to be rapidly approaching the apex of my mediocre career." MAJ (JS) "I just realized that this War on Terror might take a little longer than we thought, so I am developing a new system of hanging charts on walls to solve our problem and win the war." LTC (EUCOM) after a review of long range Counter Terrorism (CT) plans "Much work remains to be done before we can announce our total failure to make any progress." "None of us is as dumb as all of us." Excerpted from a brief (EUCOM) "Things are looking up for us here. In fact, Papua-New Guinea is thinking of offering two platoons: one of Infantry (headhunters) and one of engineers (hut builders). They want to eat any Iraqis they kill. We've got no issues with that, but State is being anal about it." LTC (JS) on OIF coalition-building "It's not a lot of work unless you have to do it." LTC (EUCOM) "I'm gonna have to leave work early today and probably stay home tomorrow. I'm fighting off a cold and I want to beat it before I start my leave in two days." MAJ (EUCOM) "Creating smoking holes gives our lives meaning and enhances our manliness." LTC (EUCOM) at a CT conference "Interagency is a process, not a noun." Anonymous (EUCOM) "Eventually, we have to 'make nice' with the French, although, since I'm new in my job, I have every expectation that I'll be contradicted." DOS rep at a Counter Terrorism Conference "Everyone should have an equal chance, but not everyone is equal." "I am so far down the food chain that I've got plankton bites on my butt." "You can get drunk enough to do most anything, but you have to realize going in that there are some things that, once you sober up and realize what you have done, will lead you to either grab a 12-gauge or stay drunk for the rest of your life." "Once you accept that a dog is a dog, you can't get upset when it barks." Lt Col (USSOCOM), excerpts "That guy just won't take 'yes' for an answer." MAJ (EUCOM) "Let's just call Lessons Learned what they really are: institutionalized scab picking." “I can describe what it feels like being a Staff Officer in two words: distilled pain." CDR (NAVEUR) "When all else fails, simply revel in the absurdity of it all." LCDR (CENTCOM) "Never attribute to malice that which can be ascribed to sheer stupidity." LTC (CENTCOM) "They also serve, who sit and surf the NIPR." CPT (CENTCOM) "I've become the master of nodding my head and acting like I give a $^!#, and then instantly forgetting what the hell a person was saying the moment they walk away." Flag-level Executive Assistant "Mark my words, this internet thing is gonna catch on someday." LTC (EUCOM) "You're not a loser. You're just not my kind of winner..." GS-14 (OSD) "He who strives for the minimum rarely attains it." GS-12 (DOS) "I'm tired of waiting on somebody who I know is just going to ignore me once they arrive." Lt Col EUCOM), while waiting to start a brief for a visiting VIP "If I'd had more time, I'da written a shorter brief..." Derived from the writings of Mark Twain "Vision without funding is hallucination." Maj (EUCOM) "I work at EUCOM. I know bullshit when I see it." LTC (EUCOM) in a game of office poker "You only know as much as you don't know." GO (EUCOM) "I'm just livin' the dream..." EUCOM staffer response to the question, "How's it going?" or, "What are you doing?" "I'm just ranting...I have nothing useful to say." LTC (EUCOM) "Why would an enemy want to bomb this place and end all the confusion?" GS-14 (EUCOM) "Other than the fact that there's no beer, an early curfew and the women wear face coverings for a reason, Kabul is really a wonderful place to visit." LTC (CENTCOM) "It was seen, visually." LTC (EUCOM) during a Reconnaissance briefing "Let me tell you about the benefits of being on a staff..." "This should be a short conversation." LtCol to Lt Col (EUCOM) "If you want to take down a country, gimme a call. We'll get it done." GO/FO (EUCOM) to a gathering of US Ambassadors "Hello gentlemen. Are we in today or are you just ignoring my request?" GS-15 (DSCA) in an email to EUCOM staffers "After seeing the way this place works, I bet that Mickey Mouse wears a EUCOM watch." Maj (EUCOM) "Your Key Issues are so 2003..." CPT (CJTF-180) in January 2004 "USCENTCOM commanders announced today that they intend to maintain their presence in Qatar "until the sun runs out of hydrogen," thus committing the US to the longest duration deployment in human history. When asked how they planned to maintain the presence in Qatar for a projected length of 4 to 5 billion years, planners said "we're working on a plan for that. We don't have one yet, but not having a plan or an intelligent reason to do something has never been much of an impediment for us in the past; we don't foresee it being a big show stopper for us in the future either." Among the options that were being discussed was an innovative program to "interbreed" the deployed personnel. "We are going to actively encourage the military members in Qatar to intermarry and raise children that will replace them in the future. Sure, it may be a little hard on some of our female service members, since there currently are about 8 men for every woman over there, but we expect that to be OBE as the sex ratios will even out in a generation or two. In any case the key to the plan is to make these assignments not only permanent, but inheritable and hereditary. For example, if you currently work the JOC weather desk, so will your children, and their children, and their children, ad infinitum. We like to think of it as job security." CPT (CJTF-180) "That's FUBIJAR." COL (CENTCOM), Fu--ed Up, But I'm Just a Reservist... "As far as I'm concerned, I'm the only one that matters in here." COL (CENTCOM) "No matter how hard this Command beats me down, I am still able to get it up." Maj (EUCOM) "I keep myself confused on purpose, just in case I am captured and fall into enemy hands!" GO/FO (CENTCOM) "Cheese-****ery abounds at this Command." LtCol (EUCOM) "Does anybody around here remember if I did anything this year?" LTC (EUCOM) preparing his Officer Evaluation Report support form "This is all happening because we had the sympathetic detonation of a stress grenade." Maj (EUCOM) after an insignificant issue became a theater focus because somebody used the "Reply all" function "I'd be happy to classify this document for you. Could you tell me its classification?" GS11 (EUCOM) in an email from the Foreign Disclosure office "Nothing is too good for you guys...and that's exactly what you're gonna get..." LTC (EUCOM) describing the way Army policy is formulated "Why should I worry? Nobody here outranks me by that much." MAJ (SOCEUR) briefing a group of 0-6s "I have to know what I don't know..." Col (CENTCOM) during a shift changeover briefing "No. Now I'm simply confused at a higher level..." Foreign GO/FO when asked if he had any questions following a transformation brief at JFCOM "I'm planning on taking the weekend off...notionally..." LT (EUCOM) midway through a huge, simulated command exercise "'Leaning forward' is really just the first phase of falling on your face.'" Col MARFOREUR) "I've heard of 'buzzwords' before but I have never experienced a 'buzz sentence' or a 'buzz paragraph' until today." Maj (EUCOM) after listening to a JFCOM trainer/mentor "We've got to start collaborating between the collaboration systems." "Our plan for the Olympics is to take all the ops and put it in the special room we have developed for ops." GO/FO (EUCOM) "Did you hear that they're canning Bob Edwards on NPR?" "Why? Did they catch him standing up for the National Anthem or something??" COL to CDR (EUCOM) "Not to be uncooperative, but we're just being uncooperative." CDR (EUCOM) in an email response to a request for information "We're from the nuke shop, sir. We're the crazy aunt in the closet that nobody likes to talk about ..." Lt Col to GO/FO (EUCOM) in briefings "We the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much for so long with so little, that we are now qualified to do anything with nothing." Anonymous, but classic... "The 'L' in CENTCOM stands for leadership..." "At this Command, we have written in large, black letters: DNR (Do Not Resuscitate) on the back of our security badges." Maj (CENTCOM) "He cloaked himself in an impenetrable veneer of terminology." Lt Col (JFCOM) describing the Jiffiecom alpha male "Transformation has long been the buzzword for those that are dispossessed, dispirited and dis-illusioned..." Chaplain (EUCOM), allegedly talking about the Disciples... "There are more disconnects on this issue than CENTCOM has staff officers." GO/FO (EUCOM) "Is that a Navy or a Marine admiral?" MAJ (EUCOM)

Depends on which way you're going, I had problems with my 260 getting over Monida pass and driving through Yellowstone due to vapor lock caused by the elevation and the heat of the summer. I don't think it would be a problem to take 90 to 25. Passes aren't too high and lots of traffic in case you do break down and need a lift. I usually carry a fuel filter, distributor cap and rotor with me but that's because I've had those things go out on me before. Solve the problem by going to school in Missoula! Cuts off about 12 hours of driving.

I'm listing this for a friend who doesn't have internet access yet. Looking for constructive feedback to help him sell the car and recoup at least what he invested in it 18 months ago. ($5K) I'll be putting it on Hybridz.org and zcar.com too. http://www.classiczcars.com/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=1140

Yeah, it's either a 4-speed or an early 5-speed from the looks of that attachment. Thanks for all the help.

I thought the small plate was an inspection plate that was only present on the early 5-speeds. maybe i need my medication, HAHAHAHAHA.

The pics aren't great but I think it's out of an '81-'83 because it's got that little plate on top of it. Any guesses, I may try to buy it if it is a later 5-speed?

The club was in it's infancy when I was a member so I think they're a little more active now with more members carrying the load of organizing...hopefully. They ended up hosting the National Convention in like '98 or '99 in Tulsa and average 2-3 car shows a year, a trip to Hallett and a couple of cruising events every year. If you don't mind going to Tulsa every other month, that'll probably drive up the number of events you could participate in. I think they judged the Branson Z-fest car show here not too long ago. The events calendar on the website would have more details as to what they're up to these days.

Oh man, sorry to hear about your accident. You've motivated me to do the Toyota caliper swap out sooner than planned.

I wouldn't use the V-8 excuse as a reason not to participate in the club. The core membership of the club is 1st-2nd gen L-series owners who started it 10 years ago. I would bet there are alot of 350 owners too since it came out a few years ago. The focus was on fun when I was a member but thats been about 9 years ago.

The OK Z club has a website and meets monthly in OKC and in Tulsa. http://www.okzcc.com/ There also used to be a Datsun heavy junkyard at South May auto salvage on May avenue between I-40 and I-240 on the west side of the street. Don't know if Bob is in business any more though.

Whereabouts in Oklahoma are you? There's a great Z club there that meets in Tulsa and OKC.

I didn't see orange up there. I voted yellow but I think the Z looks good in louder colors, red, yellow, orange.