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Devendorf...

Pretty much every ITS racer in the country will thank you for this... They have to remain stock. I want to. Mine are fine for now though...

Without an answer to that question, the easiest way to handle this is to pretend they're not. Separate that is. Bleed the right rear first then the left rear, then the right front, and last the left front. You want to move from farthest away from the master cylinder to closest. Have whoever you have inside the car give that pedal a good stomp. You are trying to dislodge air bubbles and they like to hide in the most secure places where they're hard to move. As for your pull to the left. That is kind of unusual. Because of road crown, cars *can* pull to the right and have perfectly serviced brakes. When you replaced your pads originally, was there unusual wear? Like for instance, one side have pads that looked nearly new while the other had a completely worn out pad? If your caliper pistons aren't moving freely, you may need your calipers rebuilt.

Coop, More than likely I am going to see you and your car in operation. I now work in Reno though I don't live there yet. Got my first paycheck from them today. I am running both a mechanical and electric. This is what Gary Cook, Bill Madamba, Steve Mill and one or two others local to me are doing. I will check the pressure though... This is mostly a street car.

Coop, I will be using both. The PO removed the Mechanical and installed just a tiny little pusher pump in the rear. Most of my local track junkie friends use both the mechanical and an electric pump to prime. Webers live on only 2.5 - 3.0psi of pressure so the mechanical or a good electric pump would be ok...

Bandit's hurtful gestures aside, I did get some work done today. Almost ready to reinstall the intake and exhaust. Newly rebuilt Webers, a mechanical fuel pump to help out that tiny e-pump the previous owner was using, rerouted fuel lines to semi stock locations. As soon as I get the rear up in the air, I will install the rear shoes and some other stuff I have been holding off on...

Yes dear...

Eric feels that brakes are best kept matched. This retains the balance the factory engineers intended. The fronts are now on the car loaded with Porterfield R4S pads. R4S shoes are also available for our cars and Eric sent them to me as well... He is a Porterfield dealer by the way. Tomorrow I am busy putting the engine and transmission back into my 911 but Friday I expect I can get the drums turned and shoes arced and installed. I will be talking to someone I know who does a good deal of retro-manufacturing about making Z car drums by the way... I know the ITS and other Vintage guys need them and those of us who don't want to modify will want them as well.

If you were thinking of sitting this one out because you are avoiding Bill (SilverStreak) I have good news for you! He is once again obeying his wife and will not be at the June Sacramento Z Car Reunion... When you think about it, no one wanted him around anyway right? Anyone want to buy a set of SU's all set up and ready to go? Cheap. I have nothing in them...

I alerted Mike this morning. Hopefully he can move it to the technical article section.

Come on up and get carbed and caffiened... The June Sacramento Z Car Reunion is ON!!!

I fondled them a bit ago... They're every bit as beautiful as in Eric's pictures. Rebuild of the Webers is complete. I just need to regroup and go back out and get the car up on jackstands...

I will talk to Eric about redoing it as an article if there isn't a process to just make this thread the article. He is usually pretty busy during the week though...

Calipers, pads and shoes arrived today. I am still in the process of rebuilding the triple Webers so I may not get to the brakes tomorrow but if I do, watch here for some pics of the install... I am replacing the flexible lines with SS braided lines from MSA. I went to the dealership and tried to buy stock rubber lines and I was told 'you can't get them, we just put on the SS braided line when we have occasion to do an older car like yours.' Me and Eric know a guy from the Porsche World who would turn beet red if he heard that. I have never had a problem with them but I am pretty particular about checking things.

When the calipers arrive I will be putting them on and changing out the flexible lines with SS as well as bleeding the entire system with ATE Super Blue. I will post the pictures here...

I guess you'll have to PM him Walter! I have used Eric's brake and suspension services on 3 of my 5 vehicles now. First on my 914... They still look like new years after he rebuilt them. I know Eric's very principled when it comes to not 'spamming' the boards but if you want to get in touch with him his business website is PMB Performance and he is on Facebook under that same name... Plays a mean guitar too! I'm going to do a little talking out of school here. Like I said, Eric is very principled. I have known him for 5 plus years and I have never seen him promote his business on the boards. He instructs and that is all... Eric charged me $269.00 for the rebuild of my core calipers. The pads and shoes were extra and I don't recall their cost. Compared to the mass rebuilders that might sound a bit expensive but I always remember what my Dad told me back when I was getting into cars. 'Before you can go, you have to make sure you can stop'. I have a great wife and 4 great kids. I'm not risking my life on mass rebuilder calipers. Sorry E, I know you don't talk prices on the boards but I think you do a very valuable service these guys need... I'll buy you lunch next time I see you to make up for telling on you!

Beautiful Eric... As usual, almost too nice to put on the car and get dirty! Another nice thing I have noticed about the Porterfield R4S pads is the lack of brake dust on the wheels. Once they're bedded they're pretty quiet too. Very good stopping power too. Last weekend at Thunderhill I had a young lady in an RX8 spin in turn 14 right in front of me. I had come into the corner intending to pass her between 14 and 15 so I was right behind her looking at her drivers door. The brakes hauled me down to a speed that allowed me to dive around her backside on the outside of the track. Love these pads!

That is a good question Eric. There are a bunch of guys here on ClassicZ that are original owners or own very low number cars. Between these guys and guys who want them done right (like me), I bet you will have some guys that will want you to do this for them... Hopefully they will not be as rusty and abused as the Sumitomo's I sent you! You guys be sure to 'like' PMB Performance on Facebook if you want to see more of Eric's work including all these pictures in one place and original resolution.

Julio's out... But what about you??? Let's get the gang together at the June Sacramento Z Car Reunion! Be there or drive a damned Honda fool!

Still another Newman BSRZX shot...

I would go that one better... When the original brakes were designed by the engineers at Nissan, they were better than they needed to be. Eric was impressed with the size of the brake and pad. The 240Z weighs a bit more than my Porsche 914 but the brakes are larger by a a greater proportion. The Porterfield R4S pad that I intend to use both front and rear to maintain the balance the original engineers intended should be more than enough for 200+ HP on the track or autocross. Wheel to wheel racing is different for sure. You use your brakes to negotiate traffic. On track days, you use your brakes to set the suspension for the turn. Well serviced brakes shouldn't get too hot doing that. Bigger isn't always the answer. Heat is the real enemy. Getting it out of the caliper and rotor are key.

I am pretty stoked! I have a friend who does all of my Porsche brake work. He is pretty well known amongst the Porsche and Ferrari guys. I have been getting a lot of pressure from my local Z friends to take my Z out on the track now that she is running but I like to go through the brakes first before I drive anything on the track or autocross... Shame to bend her up after all this work right... Anyway, back to Eric. I asked him if he would be interested in taking a look at restoring my Z brakes. Eric doesn't just rebuild. Pretty much anyone can do that. That means to simply make them serviceable. Eric RESTORES them. They look just as the factory intended them to look the first day you saw the car if you had been lucky enough to be an original owner. Eric finished my brakes today sometime and he posted some pics on Facebook. I asked him to come here and tell some secrets about brakes... Now before someone tells me that they put Toyota 4X4 brakes on their car I should tell you that I strongly believe that the factory engineers knew what they were doing. a good serviced set of brakes especially with modern pad and shoe compound will be all most of us ever need. Really. Here are a couple pics of the car these are going on, hopefully Eric will chime in and tell us about restoring brakes...

If you local guys are interested in autocrossing with the PCA at Mather the next day PM me...

Inside the car, underneath the dash. Attached to the heater fan with a fabricated mount. Sorry, no pics at this time. I see you're in Stockton though. The fabricated mount was whipped up really quickly and inexpensively by a shop here in Rancho Cordova. GT Auto, Gary Cook is one of the owners and he is a member here and owns a BRE replica that is pretty much spot on...