Time to move on... @HLS30 minus H, enough. You had your points to make, and either you made them with the audience or you didn't. Not saying you were wrong or right. Nobody is attacking you now, and you've added some great info and perspectives/opinions, so thank you for the contributions, but its time to stop whatever battle you want to wage...or, as others have suggested, start it elsewhere and have at it. Don't lose sight of why all of us love Z's and what this thread is about.