JohnnyO

After looking at the pictures of Charlies rails it appears that they are only partial. I would like to replace them all the way up to the frame rails. All that I have found online is partial replacements. They seem to stop just before the support flares. Anybody have any luck finding full floor support rails? John

What's with the black paint on the rockers? Was that a dealer option

I will post back when done. Might be a little while though. I am going to order the supports tomorrow which means they won't ship till Monday at the earliest. I need to acquire some tall stands so I can get under there while I am waiting for a rotisserie. I am hoping that they come off easily. Looks like a bunch of spot welds and a few beads to grind off. John

The primer that I stripped was light grey on top of red oxide. I am going to get a quart of your formula and paint the inside with it. I will start with the floor boards and tranny tunnel. I have some very nice paint examples that were under the vinyl on the strut towers. This paint appears to be the color I am expecting so I hope it hasn't faded or darkened alot. The dimensions would be great. Not too big of a rush, I won't be working on the floor pan supports and under carraige for a little while. Thanks for the help. John

I love it! I know about tiny url, but can you explain the capture? John

A guy on ebay has the IMSA body kits. He claims to have purchased the original molds. They are large, swooping flares though. John

I appreciate the honesty. I did look at yours and compared them to my existing rails and could tell that they go all the way back and was looking for something closer to stock. I am only replacing the rails. It seems a garage monkey put the lift on the floor support rails and raised (or tried to) the car. This bent the rails and pushed the original, unrusted pans up about 1" on the drivers side and about 1.5" on the passenger side. There are no creases in the pans so I am pretty sure that once I remove the existing rails they will just "pop" out. Thanks for the input and wish me luck.

Anybody have information about the fitment and design of Zedd Findings floor support rails? John

Terry, I would like measurements. That looks like one of the simplest designs I have seen. It looks like 2 engine stands that have been modified fo hold a Z. By the way, I am in awe of your Z. I am hoping to be where you are now by next spring. Started last November. John

Has anybody purchased Charlies (zedd findings) Floor support rails? Can you give me a review of them? He says that they are replicas of the originals. My idea of a replica is that it is undetectable from the original. Would that be accurate? Thanks, John

Good point but how many in/out body shops know single stage paint these days. I would imagine that every new vehicle made today is base/clear.

WOW! Thanks Terry. Exactly the info I needed. As I absolutely hate undercoating I will probably coat with POR-15 then prime and paint a light top coat as Carl describes. I would guess that the POR will take the place of the light undercoating that was in place from the factory. I have another question for you. That is a very nice and small rotisserie you have there. Where would a guy find one like that?

Terry, I see you painted the wheel wells too. Is that a stock thing or were they just over sprayed originally. When I stripped mine I thought there was a light overspray of topcoat followed by a black paint of some sort (not undercoating) followed by red-oxide. I was thinking painting them black for contrast. Probably use POR products. John

Those body panels and doors look pretty good. Should be able to get something for them if they are rust free. John

I am thinking that it shows up in the PPG computer because they probably didnt have a formula for the year it was released by Datsun. I would imagine that with the popularity of the Z came the mad rush to supply paint for them as "rookie" drivers learned how to drive them and probably all to often wrecked them. That still doesnt explain why the link at TPC Global: http://www.tcpglobal.com/aclchip.aspx?image=1970-datsun-pg01.jpg only shows the available year as 71. I know it was available in for 1970 model year cars. My car is fully documented back to the purchase and the color on the warranty book is 920 Gold, as are the floor boards, rear strut towers and deck, etc. I removed the vinyl inside (another thread to be started soon ) and found some very nice paint that has not seen the light of day in almost 40 years. I used my razor to pull a 1x1 chip up and off to the paint store I went. I hit the closest CarQuest that mixes paint just to see if they could analyze the sample and compare it to the computer formula. I got the feeling that they didn't even want to help me out. (they must have known that I wouldn't buy from them in the endLOL) They told me that my chip was too small. So I said to the guy, "you mean I can go to Home depot with a sample about as big as my pinky finger nail and they can acurately match it but you cant do it with a 1x1 chip?" He just smiled and said "our analyzer needs a bigger chip." I packed up and left. My sample will accompany me to the closest commercial paint distributor this week. I talked to them on the phone and they too show Gold 920 as a 71/72 color. I corrected the salesman and asked if he could analyze it and he said he could. He was at $387 for a gallon of Deltron 2000 + reducer ($46.00/QT) + clear ($156.15). After seeing the formula posted above I am thinking about going with Dupont. I know there are a lot of oppinions on paint but can anybody give me a reason not to use Dupont vs. PPG? I plan on using the top of the line (or close to it) in either brand, I just want the correct color. Sorry it got so winded and thanks again to all, John

That brings me to my next question: What are the drawbacks (if any) to using a single stage paint? I was thinking of going that route with a high quality paint. John

BPilati: Here is the link to the ppg chips online: http://www.tcpglobal.com/aclchip.aspx?image=1971-datsun-pg01.jpg Terry, Thanks for the help. I might have to consider Dupont instead of ppg if that is the best match. I had a sample of the PPG mixed and it too appeared too dark. Thanks all. John

I dont have the code for the rear panels but Les at Classicdatsun.com does have the paint in rattle cans. PPG lists the 920 gold as 71/72. I am pretty sure it was a 70/71 color but cant find that chip. Hope that helps. John

I am a little confused. I was at a local paint dealer talking about ppg paints and have decided to go with the DP line of epoxy primers (I have already acid etched the car) and I had a sample of the 920 Gold made up from the PPG formula in the computer. I brought it home and applied some to an area that did not get sunlight of the last 40 years and the color was alot browner than the stock color. To be honest it looks a lot different than alot of the 920 Gold cars I see online. I also hear it refered to as Safari Gold. Is Safari Gold and 920 Gold the same color or was the early series 1 gold different than the 71 920 gold? Thanks, John

Still available? John

Is the finish on the air gallery still holding up? John

Someone should offer this guy a grand for everything then purchase #491. You could use the engine from this one in #491 and at least have a period correct z. A lot of work but may be worth it.

Shot in the dark but I just asked the seller if he still has the original block. Let's see what happens. John

I tried to pry info out of this guy 3 or 4 months ago. I received the same vague responses. He is hiding something.

What do you have into it? John