The manifold you use has no effect on what the rest of the system does. That's a moot point.
By the way, the results I posted are from a stock 240Z with stock exhaust manifold.
If you have a long exhaust pipe hooked up to your manifold after the collector, you will be losing torque unless the pipe is big enough. What the headers will do is increase power over the stock manifold as they generally scavenge a bit better. There are dyno results on this as well.
Exactly! No difference going from 2.5 inch to 3 inch. That means there is no loss of low end when going with a bigger pipe. Why does it matter whether it's a 2L or a 2.4L? How else can you analyze those results? I don't understand why you can't accept the truth that dyno testing lays out, running the same car, same dyno, and only changing exhaust diameter.
As shown in many dyno tests that once you choose the proper size, you don't gain (or lose!) anything from going bigger. Well you do lose something going bigger than necessary, and that is ground clearance.
Two data points? There are two curves generated, one with 2.5 inch and the other with 3 inch pipe. Plus, other dyno results point to the same thing. This is a heck of a lot more than "two data points."
Two data points would be, say, torque at 4000rpm and 6000rpm. Yes, I agree that if we only had two points to work with then more testing needs to be done. But we have two dyno curves (large collection of data points) from the same car and dyno. I don't see why you or anybody else should still be in denial about this. I understand it is hard to accept something that is contrary to your beliefs, but this is hard evidence. If you can point me to valid dyno results that prove your point, then I will say that it may have some truth to it. But I have never seen results that show that, with everything else held constant, a smaller pipe makes more torque anywhere in the torque curve.
I've discussed many aspects of engine design with a former Formula 1 engineer and he would corroborate the points that I am making, if that makes any difference to anyone. Yes, it's not a Z engine, but it's a 4-cycle engine operating on the same exact principles.
I hate to be cluttering up this thread, but I hope that this is informative to at least one person so that I'm not just listening to myself talk (type?).